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Re: Proposed vote on issue of the day: trademarks and free software



On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:56:28PM +0100, MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop> wrote:
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> Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> wrote: [...]
> > For those of you who're not aware: the Mozilla Foundation is now forcing
> > people who want to use their firefox trademark to display an EULA to
> > their users on first run of the software. It does not currently require
> > them to accept to it, so they can easily bypass the license by just
> > ignoring it.
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> While they may have changed their position, I don't think it changes
> the basic problem with Firefox failing to be Free Software due to
> trademarks.  The statement only mentions the EULA as an example of the
> problem, not as the basic problem.
> 
> I also note that FSF's page at http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/
> says Mozilla's Firefox build includes non-free software.

It's actually outdated. Mozilla's Firefox build don't include non-free
software anymore, except its logo.

I haven't bothered modifying our cleanup script, that was based on
gnuzilla's but I do know that most of the files we cleanup are either
there by mistake or convenience (binary blobs for which the source
is provided, but that isn't really Mozilla stuff, such as nsis binaries,
for the windows installer, nsis itself being free software and the sources
being provided iirc), or are formats that GNU don't know about (like some
resource formats on MacOSX or Windows, or even BMP images).

The only real peace of non-free software that *was* included is Talkback,
the crash reporting software, and has been replaced by free software with
Firefox 3.0 release.

Mike


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