Re: First call for vote on immediate vote under section 4.2.2

[Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr>]

On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 09:52:59AM +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
> Kalle Kivimaa <kalle.kivimaa@iki.fi> wrote: [...]
> > Which issues would those be, then?
> 
> I've posted lists in the past, such as
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/09/msg00409.html
> 
> > If I look at the controversial issues aj has rised, I find these
> > three:
> > 
> > 1. Sven vs. the rest of the d-i team mediation
> > 2. Using project funds to pay some developers
> > 3. Revoking the policy editor delegation
    4. Aj's handling of the non-free firmware vote.

Aj asked me to hold my call for vote on frederik's proposal, and asked that we
come up with a 'consensual' proposal. he then claims Manoj's proposal is
consensual, while not only it is clear it is not, and it is contrary to the
will of the kernel team. He then let's Manoj manipulate the vote to get his
pet resolution voted and avoid having the better 'consensual' resolution,
leaving the whole issue a complete mess, and forcing the RMs to release an
interpretation of the vote, which is at odds with what was actually voted on.

> > In #1 aj was explicitly asked to make a decision by a party in the
> > controversy. In #2 aj first solicited opinions and then decided *not*
> > to go forward. #3 was a snap judgement based on the behaviour of a
> > delegate and it looks like aj is already reconsidering it.
> 
> AFAIK, I've not seen the request to aj for No.1 and he described it as
> being asked to review the situation - not to issue a ruling - in
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/05/msg00235.html
> It is still a current problem.

Well, the original mediation was a joke, and aj's inability to mediate, or to
apoint someone capable of actually understanding what a mediation is about, is
what left us with this mess.

But then, it is probably because aj was afraid that frans would leave the d-i
team, and we would be left without a d-i release manager, but even then, this
only proves that the mediation failed completely.

Friendly,

Sven Luther