Hi Frederik, On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 11:06:54PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote: > Overview: I asked you this question before privately and haven't seen an answer. You say below "So we propose this GR:"; does that mean that everything up to that is rationale, and not part of the text that developers will be voting on? This is very unclear to me; if the intent is to vote on the whole document, I think some wording tweaks are needed. If the intent is to vote only on the part beginning with "1. We affirm [...]", then I think it's much shorter than it should be. > So, we propose this GR: > 1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software > community (Social Contract #4); > 2. We acknowledge that there is a lot of progress in the kernel firmware > issue; however, it is not yet finally sorted out; > 3. We give priority to the timely release of Etch over sorting every bit > out; for this reason, we will deliver firmware in udebs as long as it is > necessary for installation (like all udebs), and firmware included in > the kernel itself as part of Debian Etch, without further conditions. FWIW, while I originally thought that "sourceless firmware is ok for main" and "non-free firmware stays in main for etch" should be two separate questions, after reviewing the list of kernel blobs that Larry prepared, I see that the difference between the two is very small: the only blobs currently shipping under a non-free license are for AppleTalk, token ring, and USB audio, and none of those are relevant to the installer. So if we are going to make an exception, I think we should take care to make the smallest exception necessary. If we don't *need* to grant exceptions for firmware based on their license, only on whether or not they include source, I don't think we should include such firmware in the exception. This prevents anyone from trying to add such firmware to etch that isn't already included, which would be a regression vis-à-vis freeness. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. vorlon@debian.org http://www.debian.org/
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