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Re: Reply to Fabian Fagerholm from Ted (Re: Questions for all candidates: the DPL as a creator of public opinion)

On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 01:01:16PM -0800, Ted Walther wrote:

> Debian "feels" less libertarian now than it did eight years ago.  Back
> in the day, it was unheard of for Debian Developers to be banished from
> Debian's mailing lists and official IRC channels just because of a
> personals political, social, or religious viewpoint.  These things have
> been happening more and more frequently, leading to a perception of
> creeping authoritarianism.

Since to the best of my knowledge it is *still* unheard of for developers to
be banished from mailing lists or IRC channels because of *viewpoints*, I
can only assume you're referring here to your own banning from
debian-women@lists.debian.org by the listmasters, and from #debian-devel on
irc.freenode.net by me.  Neither of these bans were a result of your
viewpoint; they were a result of your disruptive, off-topic and inflammatory
*speech*: e.g.,

In the case of #debian-devel, you were banned from speaking on the channel
as a result of your attempts to make the religious beliefs of other channel
participants a topic of discussion, in spite of repeated indications to you
that this was unwelcome.  When I removed this channel ban, it was because
you indicated your understanding and consent that further attempts to troll
channel participants about their religious beliefs would be grounds for
another ban.  Since then, you've been a participant in the channel for quite
some time without incident.  Should I be considering this mailing list post
of yours a retraction?

Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
vorlon@debian.org                                   http://www.debian.org/

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