Re: General Resolution: Handling of the non-free section: proposedBallot
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 01:21:47PM +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
> On 2004-03-08 12:33:25 +0000 Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr>
> wrote:
>
> >And not always thanks to debian-legal, which wanted me to go to
> >upstream
> >about the QPLed emacs .el issue with the argument of : "we should be
> >polite to RMS".
>
> That is a gross misreporting of Brian Thomas Sniffen's advice to you,
Well, was not that what i was told ?
> which was explained in some detail. Some -legal contributors still
> helped you despite your attacks on them ("I have not known a more rude
> bunch of people than the debian developers"), confusion between acts
This not a direct quote, i don't remember saying it exactly like this,
but you have not seen Branden and Asufield cover me with mud (err, me
trainer dans la boue in french, no idea how you say that in english)
over the xfree86 issue on irc, maybe you even have, i don't remember,
maybe you were part of the bullies that day.
> of different developers ("the current tentative to remove non-free as
> a threat to upstream authors" when BTS wrote he thought it better not
BTS ?
> to threaten upstream) and trying to provoke debian-legal into
> confrontations ("This is debian-legal, not
> debian-please-stay-polite"). You seemed to be trying to make
> debian-legal behave as your post today said they do, rather than how
> they really are. Remember that debian-legal is a mailing list of many
> developers and other contributors, not a single person.
Sorry, but i asked on advice for how to best present my case upstream,
and was agressed in return. And seriously, but does a "we should stay
polite to RMS" strike you as a serious argument you can bring to
upstream when discussing this issue.
And for the notice, i have discussed this issue with my upstream,
without any help from debian-legal, and they have agreed to clarify the
situation, it may even be the case in CVS, not sure, i have not checked.
> That thread starts at
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/debian-legal-200401/msg00088.html
> in case anyone wants to "lose time" seeing how Sven misleads -vote
> readers again. I didn't read it all, but I still remember it from the
> time. I didn't post in that thread: I don't want to lose so much time
> to Sven Luther.
Yeah.
Please go work on a free implementation of a package currently in
non-free, and stop loosing our time on this.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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