> > Also, are any of the java packages actually distributed by Debian? I > > thought there were legal issues that prevented even non-free > > distribution (though j2re/sdk packages are available elsewhere). > > Excellent points. No, acroread is not in non-free. j2re1.4 also is > not, nor is j2dsk1.4 or, in fact, any Java newer than 1.1. I dare say > that Java 1.1 in non-free is about the same usefulness as Kaffe for > today's programs. > > So, we have a situation where the #1 and #3 packages installed from > "non-free" on people's systems are not actually present in Debian's > non-free (any more). Also, no version of Java later than 1.1 is > present. This is probably obvious, but in case it's not... I often use "alien" to convert things like Sun's JDK rpms, or the rpms for the commercial schematic capture tool "eagle" (which I noticed in the list) and convert them to deb and install them. In at least one other thread I've said before it would be interesting to analyze the popularity contest results and see how many (packages and versions of) things not in (stable|testing|unstable)/(main|non-free|contrib) show up - probably mostly stuff like newer versions of KDE from downloads.kde.org, backport collections, etc. On my machines there is a fair amount of that kind of stuff. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer dmartin@cliftonlabs.com http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available
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