Re: one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 06:13:00PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 10:21:26AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > glorious words.
> >
> > trouble is, that non-free isn't a crutch. non-free isn't that significant.
>
> Well then, it should be no problem to remove.
no.
you just don't get it, do you? the fact that non-free is not particularly
significant does not mean that the consequences are trivial for those who want
or need the software.
> > > If you are a business and almost-free means home or educational use only,
> > > that difference is practically non-existant.
> >
> > then they simply don't use that software. they are no worse off than they
> > would be if it didn't exist, while a number of people/orgs who are allowed
> > to use it ARE better off.
> >
> > your point seems to be that SOME can't use it, so NOBODY should.
>
> No. My point is that SOME can't use it; therefore Debian should not be
> in the business of providing a mirror network for it.
WHY?
why disadvantage everyone just because some are already disadvantaged?
> > > Then you are confusing the "what should be allowed in main" argument with
> > > the "whether we should distribute things that are not allowed in main"
> > > argument. They are two distinct questions, and it seems to me that you
> > > are attempting to influence the second because your opinions on the first
> > > were not shared by a majority of Debian developers.
> >
> > huh?
> >
> > once again you accuse me of talking about main when i am talking about
> > non-free.
>
> That's a pointless distinction, since non-free is, by its very definition,
> "that which doesn't meet the requirements for main."
no, it is not a pointless distinction.
> > is this really the best that you can do? accuse anyone who is in favour of
> > keeping non-free of wanting to pollute main with non-free stuff? oooh!
> > what a scary bogeyman!
>
> You yourself said that is what you would like to do. There is no need for me
> to make the accusation.
i did not say anything of the kind you lying fuck!
stop putting words in my mouth.
once again you bigots prove that you will stoop to any level, utter any lie.
the end justifies the means.
you have no fucking honour.
there is no point in debating anything with those who have no honour, with those
who will lie.
craig
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