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Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 03:00:50PM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
> I am not a DD (yet), and this is not a GR proposal (yet). However, I'm 
> requesting comments on it, and maybe it'll be more tenable to people 
> more reluctant to remove non-free.

Thanks for posting this.  I think it's probably the best statement
of what this non-free proposal might be about that I've seen
to date.

> -------- -
> Whereas,
> 	the Debian Project exists to create a distribution of free software;
> 	many Developers do not consider it moral or equitable to provide,
> 	freely, our project's resources to projects who are unwilling or
> 	unable to provide their code freely to the public;

Two issues here: morality, and equitablity.

[*] Morality: can you provide any reference to this moral code?

[*] Equitability: what is the unfairness, specifically

> 	the importance of non-free software has greatly decreased since the
> 	founding of the project; and

How do you measure this?

> 	outside groups have been quite able to provide well-integrated
> 	software no harder to obtain than that from Debian's own mirror
> 	network:

I don't know what you're talking about here -- perhaps you should
ennumerate these groups.

The examples I'm aware of fall into two categories:

[*] temporary, development efforts

[*] commercial outfits which limit access to the result.

If it's the latter you're referring to... I think it's hypocritical
to compare what we have in non-free to commercial software.  While the
software in non-free doesn't meet our guidelines -- and we can't fully
support it --  we still can package it and distribute it fairly broadly.

This is not the case, in general, for commercial software.


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