[digression; nothing about voting or the current GR here, just a question about the real reasons that non-free is languishing today.] On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 05:23:43PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Second, our users still aren't able to do everything they might like > to with free software; they can't play Flash games, they can't look > at Quicktime movies, they can't do internet banking with Java clients, > and they can't do a bunch of other things. Some of those things can be > ameliorated with non-free, although fewer are than is possible since > non-free hasn't been being maintained at the level it ought to be. Which of the lacunae on your list can be remedied with non-free software that we would actually be able to redistribute? I don't think the absence of Java browser plugins from non-free is really due to a lack of interest -- last I checked, Blackdown was working through the legal tape to be able to let us redistribute their jre in non-free, but this has never come to fruition. I think it's ridiculous that no one in the Mozilla community has ever managed to implement a Java plugin for use with any of the myriad free JVMs, but that's another matter. Or maybe it isn't, since my own background leaves me much more inclined to work on free reimplementations of the missing software than to package the non-free ones. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer
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