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Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying



On Wed, 21 May 2003 11:28:37 +0200, Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> said: 

> On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:09:43AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Sven Luther wrote:
>> > But you cannot know what the situation is, unless you have
>> > insider knowledge
>>
>> A situation where a vote would be successful, but fail for lack of
>> participation, often requires no insider knowledge at all to be
>> recognizeable as such. In that situation, the opponents can make a
>> vote fail simply by not voting.

> If there is sucha lack of participation that even our low quorum
> requirement is not meet, then is this a bad thing ?

	Is Quorum low for all votes we have? How about tech ctte
 votes? (sqrt of 9 == 3; half = 1.5; times 3 = 4.5; so we need 5 out
 of 9 people (when we do get 9 people)). For 7 people, we need a
 quorum of 4.

	In the general body votes, for debian, sure, it is not a bad thing.
	

	Can you point out any case in which the amendment invalidates
 a vote where the initial GR does not? There is no such case I could
 come up with. 

	Indeed, the amendment would validate general body votes where
 no option got the support of event the low quorum number of voters --
 which is a bad thing.

	I think it should be made clear that the original GR rejects
 votes in more cases of low participation than the amendment does.

	manoj

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