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Re: [Notice] Social Contract Change Vote



I admit that that ballot was unclear :(  I did like Mr. Buck's ballot and I
received another good suggestion via private email.

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 11:11:40AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Darren O. Benham wrote:
> 
> > What would you like to see?
> 
> Well, if you are trying to get a vote on whether or not to apply Anthony
> Towns' ammendment, then the example ballot suggested by Buddha Buck is a
> clear statement of what is being voted upon, and I could certainly submit
> a ballot written like that. Personally, it isn't clear from your ballot
> that this was the goal, or how I could arrive at that goal.
> 
> What I expect to see in a ballot is a clear description of exactly what is
> being decided by the vote, and how marking an item on the ballot will
> declare my choice. 
> 
> What choices were you offering on the ballot you submitted? Some clever
> people seem to have figured it out, but even with their suggestions it
> isn't clear to me that this was your intention.
> 
> Waiting is,
> 
> > 
> > On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 10:57:05AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > > The '[BALLOT] Social Contract Change' message was completely confusing. I
> > > have listened to the discussion on the list, and no one there seems to
> > > know how to mark the ballot either, although there is plenty of opinion
> > > about what the ballot "means".
> > > 
> > > It is unclear what is actually being voted upon. I see that CHOICE 1 is
> > > "associated" with item 1 on the ballot which says simply "Yes". Does a
> > > mark here mean that I agree with CHOICE 1? Also CHOICE 2 is said to be
> > > associated with item 2 on the ballot, which simply says "No". Does a mark
> > > here mean that I do _not_ want CHOICE 2?
> > > 
> > > It is my understanding, from my own reading of the Debian Constitution
> > > that the secretary decides how the vote will be structured and will
> > > produce a ballot. Since it isn't clear what I am being asked to vote for
> > > or against, this latest attempt by the Secretary seems to fall short of a
> > > ballot.
> > > 
> > > Since I can't figure out what the vote is about, I can't produce a
> > > completed ballot, so I have no choice but to refuse to vote. I hope there
> > > are at least 20 other developers as confused as I am, so we have the
> > > required number of "Developers" to block any action resulting from this
> > > ... vague ballot.
> > > 
> > > While there _is_ an indication that there is a second ballot, there is no
> > > indication of what is being decided by the content of the first, so I
> > > don't see how a second ballot can clear up my confusion.
> > > 
> > > Waiting is,
> > > 
> > > Dwarf
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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> Dwarf
> --
> _-_-_-_-_-   Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide"  _-_-_-_-_-_-
> 
> aka   Dale Scheetz                   Phone:   1 (850) 656-9769
>       Flexible Software              11000 McCrackin Road
>       e-mail:  dwarf@polaris.net     Tallahassee, FL  32308
> 
> _-_-_-_-_-_- See www.linuxpress.com for more details  _-_-_-_-_-_-_-
> 
> 

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