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Re: Xorg window manager stopped working after upgrade to kernel 6.16.3+deb13-amd64





On 17.11.2025 4:29, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 16/11/2025 02:24, Peter Milesson wrote:
There is just one single uninformative log message in the journal, which makes it impossible for me to track down what's going on.

It still may be informative for others or specific enough for search engines.

They are up to date, as everything applicable is installed from Trixie backports.

"Everything" from backports sounds suspicious. What about just kernel installed from backports and other packages from stable+security+updates?

- The terminals are configured with a graphical GUI using LightDM as display manager, and LXDE as window manager.
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- User profiles are mounted to /home/<user> on the terminals with libpam-mount through CIFS.

pam_mount(8) has a troubleshooting section. PAM may be rather sensitive to order of modules loaded during lightdm session.

I faced issues with locking home directories encrypted using fscrypt since systemd user session may finish after systemd PAM session. My impression is that systemd developers aware with this use case, but instead of PAM modules recommend to run some daemon. There is systemd-homed for this purpose (I have not tried it).

Hi Max,

Thanks for your input.

I have been digging further into this enigma, and there isn't a single error reported in any logs, or in the journal, to indicate why LXDE terminates. It starts up properly, and then it just terminates without explanation. The behavior is the same whether I use LightDM for logon, or log on as a user from the console, and run startx.

Everything from backports does not mean all packages, just the relevant ones. For many years, I never had any problems with packages from Debian backports. OTOH, I would have crippled my installations to a high degree, if I for example had not kept Samba recent. So I will continue to install relevant packages from backports. In this particular case it seems the latest kernel from backports is at fault, not the other packages.

Thanks for the tip about using systemd-homed. I will try it, and see if it helps.

Best regards,

Peter


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