Mails from David Wright are not delivered by the list server
Hi,
i am in contact with David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> whose
mails are neither delivered nor archived by the server of
debian-user@lists.debian.org since end of august 2025.
On 5 Oct 2025 i got a mail from him,
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2025 14:23:55 -0500
Subject: Re: checksums for ISOs of early Debian releases
which was addressed
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Thomas Schmitt <scdbackup@gmx.net>
He predicted correctly:
> P.S. Don't expect this post to appear in debian-user;
> I appear to be blocked at present.
And indeed there are no mails from him in the archives since
Aug 21 2025:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2025/08/msg00781.html
Today i got a more detailed description of the failed attempts:
> 2025-08-28 through 2025-09-01 to debian-user:
> 4 posts; one was a repeat because it didn't show up, yet I saw
> the Bcc had arrived.
> 2025-09-01 to listmaster:
> Included the timestamps and Message-IDs of my last success and
> first failure to post on debian-user.
> 2025-09-01 to the senders of the three posts above:
> One got a response here:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2025/09/msg00058.html
> Another got a terse reply; the third was a no-response.
> 2025-09-02 to debian-user and the sender:
> 2025-09-06 to debian-user and the sender:
> 2025-09-19 to debian-user and the sender:
> 2025-10-02 to debian-user and the sender:
After these attempts he contacted listmaster again plus Andrew M.A.
Cater. I understand that he got no replies. So possibly his mails
did not reach them.
> 2025-10-05 to debian-user and the sender:
> Three posts, one of which is the email you received.
> 2025-10-06 to listmaster:
> Sent a reminder of my previous email, and included a screenshot
> of the successful Bcc of one of yesterday's posts. Of course,
> it's possible for that to result in its being filtered out.
> 2025-10-14 to amacater@debian.org and amacater@einval.com:
> Sent this to Andy's posting address, as it's possible that
> debian.org is entirely inaccessible to me; this was also
> a no-response.
Two days ago he got confirmation from his email provider, that an
attempt reached the list server:
> 2025-10-19 to debian-user and the sender:
> After seeing the Bcc of this post arrive, I opened a ticket with
> my email hosting service, submitting the email and the log of mutt
> (at debug level 5) sending the email to their SMTP server.
> They have sent back a screenshot of their system's successful
> delivery of this post to debian-user@lists.debian.org, queued under
> the id 77EC32057E about 17 minutes later. This string would be
> contained in the resulting list post were it successful, though
> technically I can only infer that the queue id is bendel's in the
> chain: cloud225.thundercloud.uk (my email service's host) →
> mailclean11.thundermail.uk (outgoing spam filter service) →
> relay.mailchannels.net (multiple hosts relaying service) →
> bendel.debian.org (the list). Bendel is the only host that issues
> an id with ten hex digits, judging from my past posts and others'
> more recent ones. So that string is something I would expect the
> listmaster to observe in the logs when my email was delivered to
> bendel.debian.org (2025-10-19 17:50 UTC).
I had offered him to serve as proxy in this issue.
> > Shall i ask on the list on your behalf what's going on ?
> Yes, please. Perhaps some debian-user list members, particularly
> those with @debian.org in their email address, would be able to help,
> as they might have some privileged access at the domain. But
> forwarding this email to listmaster@lists.debian.org might elicit
> some explanation of what's blocking my posts, how it happened, and
> why no notification.
> [anything here can be forwarded/posted/etc]
So now, with my proxy hat on, i ask for ideas about what is happening
and how to work around.
(It seems not necessary to Cc: David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
in replies to this mail, but i do so just to be sure.)
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
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