Re: [deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments]
On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 7:41 PM David Wright wrote:
>
> My posts are being dropped between my hosting's smarthost and debian-user.
this one at least made it to my inbox
> ----- Forwarded message from David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> -----
>
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2025 22:39:43 -0500
> From: David Wright
> Subject: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments
> Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> On Sun 31 Aug 2025 at 17:08:47 (-0400), Lee wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 3:15 PM Andy Smith wrote:
> > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 04:24:59PM +0000, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > > > You mean Debian doesn't inform you if your OS needs an update?
> > >
> > > It is dependent on the desktop chosen. GNOME by default downloads
> > > updates, and notifies you of them with a desktop notification.
> > >
> > > The package "apticron" for email notifications has also existed in
> > > Debian for a decade or more though people still seem to enjoy
> > > reinventing it on their own.
> >
> > Or perhaps it's that an email notification is useless for us and we
> > want a notification that will actually be noticed.
>
> In my case it's that I want the packages downloaded at the same time.
> And I think I've been doing that for longer than apticron has been
> around—I see in my sent-mail folder a 2003 post to a LUG, exhorting
> someone to put:
> apt-get -qq update && apt-get -dqq dist-upgrade && apt-get -sqq upgrade
> into their crontab, or perhaps their /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ (which seems
> concordant with the age of the post).
>
> Nowadays my root crontabs have:
> apt-get -qq -o Acquire::http::Proxy="http://192.168.1.14:3142/"; update && apt-get -qq -d -o Acquire::http::Proxy="http://192.168.1.14:3142/"; dist-upgrade && find /var/cache/apt/archives/ -name '*deb'
> I occasionally find it useful to take a look inside new packages'
> /usr/share/doc/ files to see what's changed.
but doesn't dist-upgrade apply the updates?
I just want to be notified about any updates that are available. I
don't want them being applied until after I review them.
Regards,
Lee
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