On Wednesday, September 3rd, 2025 at 12:50 PM, Timothy M Butterworth <timothy.m.butterworth@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 7:41 PM David Wright wrote:
>
> My posts are being dropped between my hosting's smarthost and debian-user.
this one at least made it to my inbox
> ----- Forwarded message from David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> -----
>
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2025 22:39:43 -0500
> From: David Wright
> Subject: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments
> Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> On Sun 31 Aug 2025 at 17:08:47 (-0400), Lee wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 3:15 PM Andy Smith wrote:
> > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 04:24:59PM +0000, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > > > You mean Debian doesn't inform you if your OS needs an update?
> > >
> > > It is dependent on the desktop chosen. GNOME by default downloads
> > > updates, and notifies you of them with a desktop notification.
> > >
> > > The package "apticron" for email notifications has also existed in
> > > Debian for a decade or more though people still seem to enjoy
> > > reinventing it on their own.
> >
> > Or perhaps it's that an email notification is useless for us and we
> > want a notification that will actually be noticed.
>
> In my case it's that I want the packages downloaded at the same time.
> And I think I've been doing that for longer than apticron has been
> around—I see in my sent-mail folder a 2003 post to a LUG, exhorting
> someone to put:
> apt-get -qq update && apt-get -dqq dist-upgrade && apt-get -sqq upgrade
> into their crontab, or perhaps their /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ (which seems
> concordant with the age of the post).
>
> Nowadays my root crontabs have:
> apt-get -qq -o Acquire::http::Proxy="http://192.168.1.14:3142/" update && apt-get -qq -d -o Acquire::http::Proxy="http://192.168.1.14:3142/" dist-upgrade && find /var/cache/apt/archives/ -name '*deb'
> I occasionally find it useful to take a look inside new packages'
> /usr/share/doc/ files to see what's changed.
but doesn't dist-upgrade apply the updates?
I just want to be notified about any updates that are available. I
don't want them being applied until after I review them.
KDE's Discover checks for updates daily and provides a system notification when updates are available. Discover will run on other desktops as well. Discover is also handy when you want even more good free stuff but are not sure what the package names are.
Tim
Can I install all of the desktop environments and switch between them as and when I like?
Regards,
Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Targeted Individuals Singapore