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Re: debian-trixie: Issues with X



On 2025-08-08 16:19:28 +0200, Hans wrote:
> since my upgrade from fine running bookworm to trixie I am runing
> into several issues with X- Server. I am running NOT Wayland but
> Xorg (X11).

FYI, I'm using Debian/unstable (thus now matching trixie) with X
and FVWM (no desktop environment), and I don't have any issue, but
here, X runs as root (see below).

> The issues are for example a 
> 
> 1. long delay when X is starting

There isn't just X, but also various scripts. The standard error
is normally redirected to ~/.xsession-errors, so you could look
at it.

[...]

> All these things let me believe, that something basic is not working
> correct. I made several tries to upgrade:
> 
> 1. Restored the last working hardrive image of bookworm and then
> upgraded again = same issue

After just restoring, do you have any issue?

In order to find the cause, you could try to upgrade key packages
(with their dependencies) one by one.

> 5. Checked logs, tried configurations and lots more = no success

Something else you can try: run X with strace and time information
(e.g. -t or -rt).

You have checked that $DISPLAY is ":0", right? (i.e. it does not try
some network connection, even local)

> I discovered, when starting X as user "root", it is working fine,
[...]

In my case, Xorg always runs as root (Debian bug 809067 in lightdm).

> As both computers are showing similar symptoms after upgrade to
> trixie, I think, it is an Xserver related issue.

If you first try to upgrade just xserver-xorg-core, you may be able
to confirm.

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