Hi Gene, On 12/13/24 17:04, gene heskett wrote:
On 12/13/24 18:23, Tom Dial wrote:On 12/13/24 02:48, gene heskett wrote:On 12/13/24 03:52, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 01:53:55AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...]That was the system config at the original install, and every one of the subsequent installs, nothing I did with the installer prevented it from installing orca and brltty. Text only, several variations of graphical have been tried.Hm. Difficult to tell, then.Another clue perhaps: where does t-bird try to save a draft copy of a msg while editing it?, its driving me crazy with failed to write a draft msg every 5 minutes.I'd venture the strong guess that this is a totally unrelated rabbit hole. In our trade, there are several of them, as you quite certainly know. CheersWherever it try's, t-b seemto be interpreting the lag as a possible perms denial. I did an ls -lR on the directory in home where I put the unpacked .xz, and I own every byte of it. The only thing I don't own in /home/gene is .. That's root:root as expected.The correct permissions for your login directory (/home/gene/) are gene:gene, assuming you log in as "gene" and would have been set to that if you created the user "gene" during install.
No feedback on this? Wrong ownership of a user's login directory is fairly likely to cause permission problems for the user.
/home should have permissions root:root. I do not know whether that has anything to do with the problems you are having, but correcting it might have some effect and might head off others. With gnome, orca is installed as a dependency. The presumptively correct way to tame it seems to be via the gnome menu item Settings->Accessibility. Mine has every option set to "off" except "Enable Animations," which causes me no grief.My menu has no Accessibility bar under settings.If brltty is installed and you don't need it, the proper action is "apt purge brltty," which I have done on occasion.I've done that to both orca and brltty, the dependency's seem to have been removed now.
Through bookworm, gnome depends on orca, and removing orca (the Debian way) will remove gnome. You can do it, and that will leave its dependencies alone, but without their normal dependency structure. That will leave a large handful of installed packages that will be subject to autoremoval if you ever do that, which may degrade your system's utility. It also is likely to lead to unintended and possibly undesirable effects later on during the normal course of maintenance. Regards, Tom Dial
No change though.Regards, Tom DialCheers, Gene Heskett, CET..Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.