Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat
Hi,
On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 01:51:50PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> i just received a message from the list server that my mail provider
> GMX has rejected a spam message which the Debian list allowed to pass
> by a tiny not-spam margin.
> From this quite unsuspicious situation the automat of Debian Listmaster
> Team derived the threat to unsubscribe me.
What you have interpreted as "a threat" was simply a procedural
warning that if your address continues to be undeliverable then you
will be automatically unsubscribed. Almost every single mailing list
in the world works this way, but some do not warn you that your
mail is bouncing.
The difference between "a threat" and "a procedural warning" is
semantic and subtle, but what you have experienced is commonplace
and not a cause for concern - we can assume it will be rare that GMX
and Debian will disagree over spam score and as soon as you receive
a successful delivery, the list software will reset its bounce
counter for you. Which will already have happened.
> (I would propose that list server shall please refrain from
> unsubscription threads if the mail in question gets a near-spam score in
> the Debian list system.)
I suppose it would be possible and you could submit a wishlist bug
to that effect, but to be honest I do not think it would receive
much attention. However I could easily be wrong, perhaps it would
grab the attention of a listmaster, so you'd have to submit it to
find out.
Personally what I do is silently discard spammy emails from known
list servers instead of rejecting them at SMTP time (which is
otherwise and usually desirable). Doing that does require running
your own mail server though, which almost no one does.
Thanks,
Andy
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