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Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat



On Sunday, 11 August 2024 07:51:50 -04 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i just received a message from the list server that my mail provider
> GMX has rejected a spam message which the Debian list allowed to pass
> by a tiny not-spam margin.
> From this quite unsuspicious situation the automat of Debian
> Listmaster Team derived the threat to unsubscribe me.
> 
> I see the potential for a bounce troll, like we had a few years ago.
> (Whenever one of us posted to the list, the troll faked a bounce from
> our mail providers.)
> 
> Do other experience the same ?
> 
Yep, Thomas, same here, but it was just one bounce.

vy 73 de Eike

> (I would propose that list server shall please refrain from
> unsubscription threads if the mail in question gets a near-spam score
> in the Debian list system.)
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Details:
> 
> The list server quotes a reply from the GMX mail servers.
> 
>   https://lists.debian.org/bounces/FVOZui8Ui2aBD+8obfofFQ
> shows
>   "For explanation visit
>   
> https://postmaster.gmx.net/de/case?c=r0701&i=ip&v=82.195.75.100&r=1MY
> cpl-1siPQU12EF-00K6HO" ...
>   X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.9 required=4.0
> ...,DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,... ...
>   Received: from mail-wr1-x443.google.com ...
>      by bendel.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2121E2049B
>      for <debian-user@lists.debian.org>;
>      Sun, 11 Aug 2024 10:21:41 +0000 (UTC)
>   Received: by mail-wr1-x443.google.com ...
>      for <debian-user@lists.debian.org>; Sun, 11 Aug 2024 03:21:41
> -0700 (PDT) ...
>   Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 11:21:27 -0700
> 
> The web says that DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12 from Spamassassin means that
> the mail's Date is 6 to 12 hours in the future relative to the time it
> was received.
> 
> My provider takes more offense:
> 
>  
> https://postmaster.gmx.net/de/case?c=r0701&i=ip&v=82.195.75.100&r=1MY
> cpl-1siPQU12EF-00K6HO "Die Zeitangabe im Date-Header weicht zu stark
> von der tatsächlichen Zeit ab."
>   = "The time stamp of the Date header deviates too much from the
>      actual time."
> 
> 
> Have a nice day :)
> 
> Thomas

-- 
Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE




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