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Re: time question, as in ntp?



Hello,

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 10:24:35PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> On 11/30/23 21:37, Max Nikulin wrote:
> > So to install "klipper is just a program" you run some scripts that
> > overwrite /etc/network/interfaces and you blame NetworkManager and some
> > other stuff instead.
> If you would bother to read what I posted, you would have seen that
> networkmangler claimed credit for that overwritten /e/n/i file.

1. There is nothing in Debian that ever overwrites the
   /etc/network/interfaces file. But you aren't running Debian on
   this machine, so we are all having difficulty helping you.
   Because this is DEBIAN-user.

2. All you've described is a line in a file which says, "Network is
   managed by NetworkManager". There is NO indication WHICH piece of
   software put that line there, it really could be anything.
   Because you aren't running Debian. Since NetworkManager can be
   set up to run arbitrary commands, it certainly COULD be YOUR
   setup of NetworkManager. Or something else entirely different.
   It's nothing in Debian, though.

> > Then you are incompatible with software you are trying to run. Your
> > options:
> > - do not allow scripts coming with klipper or its installer to touch
> > network configuration
> > - setup a DHCP server in your network and provide to 3d wizards
> > environment they expect.
> > 
> Again, Max, its your way or the hiway. I'd be willing to guess that my
> network experience goes back at least a decade before your first class in cs
> 101. /etc/hosts files worked in 1990 then as now, we just have to get the
> dhcp crap out of the way.  And you and your insistence on using dhcp which
> has never given me a stable address are definitely NOT helping.

This like some sort of farce.

You have an operating system hard-coded to use DHCP, but you won't
use DHCP, so it doesn't work. You can't work out how to make it not
want DHCP; you won't ask the people who made it how; instead you ask
us completely uninvolved folks how to do it. When we tell you to
configure it for static networking you say you can't because it
wants DHCP. When we say use DHCP then, you say, "oh I see it's your
way or the hiway, I'll have you know I was crafting IP packets from
raw bean sprouts before you kids ever drew breath!"

So would I be correct in saying that you want US to work out how to
do this thing in software we don't use and that's off-topic here,
and that's the only answer you'll accept?

Or have I misunderstood and there is some other direction you would
like to go with this?

Thanks,
Andy

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