On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 05:32:03PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > Ohhhkaaay, but why then do I get a message if looking at the journal as user > 1000, that the user must be a member of the adm group to see all the log, ...unless you use sudo. > AND adding me to the adm group doesn't change what I can see using sudo? I As sudo you can see *all* (I don't know a lot about systemd's journal, but I do some sysadmin for food, and the boxes at work do systemd, so the basic knowledge is there. And the above belongs to the basic knowledge. Now let's be scientific: what evidence makes you assume that there's anything in the logs you are not shown? > see gigabytes of stuff from kwin etc, but nary a syllable from what isn't > working because something blocks it. Perhaps "what isn't working" isn't logging to the syslogs at all? (this hunch has come up elsewhere in this thread). Another possibility: it is in the logs, but hidden under so much stuff that you don't see it. See, if you "do" AppImages you are multiplying your system's complexity. Each AppImage is like a little operating system (without the kernel) where the application provider dictates the rules, not Debian (that's why I avoid them like the plague). Cheers -- t
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