Re: Dell Precision 3570 - Debian instead of Ubuntu
On Fri, 2022-12-16 at 18:12 +0100, B.M. wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The new laptop just arrived and I had a first look what the people
> did
> at Dell or Canonical:
>
> After switching it on the first time, I was asked to enter
> / configure
> WLAN, username, password, hostname, keyboard layout, time zone. It
> also
> let me create a recovery USB stick. After a reboot I now could just
> use
> it. But of course I had a look behind the scenes...:
>
> It came with Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS and Gnome 3.36.8 running on X11.
>
> The internal disk is formatted as
> - 891 MB EFI mounted at /boot/efi
> - 8.6 GB FAT not mounted, disks reports it as "Microsoft Reserved"
> - 503 GB Ext4 Root Partition
>
> The USB stick I used as recovery medium got formatted as
> - 4 GB 0x00 (Bootable) ISO 9660 mounted at
> /media/<username>/DellRecoveryMedia
> - 4.1 MB EFI FAT not mounted
> - and some GB free space
>
> After installing Synaptic I found out that there are some more
> Origins
> with installed packages as listed here:
> local/main (dell.archive.canonical.com):
> oem-fix-misc-cnl-tlp-estar-conf, 5.0.3.4, maintainer
> commercial.engineering(at)canonical.com:
> This package carrys agressive policy to pass energy-star, and
> also
> some blacklist for problematic devices
> oem-somerville-factory-meta, 20.04ubuntu9, maintainer
> commercial.engineering(at)canonical.com:
> It installs packages needed to support this hardware fully.
> oem-somerville-factory-paras-35-meta, 20.04ubuntu3, maintainer
> commercial.engineering(at)canonical.com:
> It installs packages needed to support this hardware fully.
> (factory)
> oem-somerville-meta, 20.04ubuntu9, maintainer
> commercial.engineering(at)canonical.com:
> This is a metapackage for Somerville platform. It installs
> packages
> needed to support this hardware fully.
> oem-somerville-paras-35-meta, 20.04ubuntu3, maintainer
> commercial.engineering(at)canonical.com:
> This is a metapackage for Somerville Paras-35 platform. It
> installs
> packages needed to support this hardware fully.
> oem-somerville-partner-archive-keyring, 20.04ubuntu2, maintainer
> commercial.engineering(at)canonical.com:
> Somerville project keyring.
> local/universe (dell.archive.canonical.com):
> tlp, 1.3.1-2, maintainer ubuntu-devel-discuss(at)lists.ubuntu.com:
> Save battery power on laptops
> (Description)
> tlp-rdw, 1.3.1-2, maintainer ubuntu-devel-
> discuss(at)lists.ubuntu.com:
> Radio device wizard
> (Description)
> focal/universe (dell.archive.canonical.com):
> tlp, 1.3.1-2, maintainer ubuntu-devel-discuss(at)lists.ubuntu.com:
> tlp-rdw, 1.3.1-2, maintainer ubuntu-devel-
> discuss(at)lists.ubuntu.com:
> stable/main (dl.google.com):
> google-chrome-stable is installed
>
> Now my thoughts are:
> - Chrome not necessary...
> - tlp, tlp-rdw: also in Debian Testing (Bookworm), but with higher
> version number (1.5.0-1), but also with a different maintainer
> (raphael.halimi@gmail.com)
> oem-fix-misc-cnl-tlp-estar-conf: does it make sense to keep this
> package?
> oem-somerville-*: could make sense to keep...
>
> --> Can I re-install these packages after installing Debian Testing
> by
> adding and enabling these Dell repositories?
>
> Under /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ there are some files that might be
> corresponding to these repos and maybe I should keep them:
> ubuntu-keyring-2008-oem.gpg
> ubuntu-keyring-2008-oem.key.gpg
> ubuntu-keyring-2020-oem.gpg
>
> and under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ there are:
> focal-oem.list
> oem-somerville-paras-35-meta.list
>
> But: as far as I remember, one should not mix Debian packages /repos
> with Ubuntu packages / repos, but I might work.
>
> What do you think?
>
> (Of course I could just keep it as it is, but I'd prefer having a
> Debian-only setup in our family across all devices.)
>
> (Fun fact also mentioned: on the Dell website for the laptop there is
> a
> Q&A section where is stated that the laptop comes without any OS pre-
> installed but one could install Ubuntu on it while when asking their
> chat the answer was that it's not allowed to sell computers without
> any
> OS installed (at least here in Switzerland)...)
>
> Have a nice day,
> Bernd
>
>
> PS: Please add me CC since I'm currently not subscribed to this list.
> Thanks.
>
Hi again,
Looking a bit further, it seems that all these packages are not
containing more than 3 config files within /etc/tlp.d/
And the tlp and tlp-rdw packages itself. Does someone have an idea what
it means that these packages have higher version numbers in Debian
Testing but a different maintainer (see my last mail)? Going back in
the Debian changelog file there hasn't been a change in the maintainer,
i.e. I have to assume that the packages are not identical? Should/could
I compare their config files?
Thank you and have a nice day,
Bernd
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