Re: Debian desktop environment
On 5/24/22 05:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 01:27:29PM +0200, Antonino Saetta wrote:
So I was wondering, why am I asked to choose (or not) a GNOME desktop
environment, other than *Debian desktop environment*?
uncheck that box, select any other Desktop you want, or None.
by trial and error I believe it is actually Gnome, the new super
dumbed-down version.
I much prefer Mate
I thought that Debian is GNOME by default...
*sigh* It's complicated.
See, there's more than one Debian installer program, and there's more
than one IMAGE which uses the Debian installer as its core.
The "Debian desktop environment" setting is designed to choose whichever
desktop the DESIGNER OF YOUR INSTALLATION IMAGE decided should be the
default.
If you're using the official Debian netinst or DVD-1 installer image,
the default choice is GNOME.
If you're using a Debian "Live" image, the default choice is potentially
something other than GNOME. It'll usually say in the image's filename.
If you're using something other than pure Debian, the default could be
anything at all.
Also, what's the lightest desktop? Default, XFCE or LXDE...?
I really liked tomas's answer to this. The way you're asking this
question means you've already fallen into the trap of thinking that
it's normal and expected to install a full-blown Desktop Environment
and that you're supposed to choose one of them.
A lot of us (myself included) don't use ANY of those. We just use a
traditional window manager, of which there are a few dozen.
If you UNSELECT all of the desktop options (including the stupid
"Debian desktop environment" choice that picks one for you)
I agree, the Stupid default is super annoying.
I believe that the "Debian desktop environment"is actually Gnome
(Gnome3) and it really sucks.
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BTW: The Debian Installer is the best I have ever found, with only Two
exceptions... That default crap selection, and auto selecting all swap
partitions on the entire system for Formatting.
end of rant
, you get
an installation which has only the Standard packages, and no graphical
environment yet.
At that point, if you know which window manager you want to use, you
can do this:
1) Check for missing firmware and video drivers. You're already booting
to a text console, so you've bypassed the "I can't boot because
the Display Manager locks up because of missing firmware" trap.
Now you get to resolve that peacefully, without a DM trying to take
over the display at boot time.
2) sudo apt-get install xorg your-favorite-wm your-favorite-terminal ....
3) startx
If startx works, then you can continue booting to a text console and using
startx to launch the GUI each time. Or you can select a Display Manager
package and install that, if you want a GUI login. It's up to you.
Or, of course, you're free to use a Desktop Environment if that's what
you prefer. That's the thing about Debian: it lets you choose.
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