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Re: which references (books, web pages, faqs, videos, ...) would you recommend to someone learning about the Linux boot process as thoroughly as possible?



> I think that at least in the past it was possible to boot Debian Live systems with `toram` option, too. You should probably just try it out?

 Well, it seems DL has its own "toram", "fromhd", "bootfrom", ... but
not as parameters to be entered right in the first splash screen while
it boots up as knoppix does

 I went google: "debian live toram" looking for something like:

 http://knoppix.net/wiki3/index.php?title=Cheat_Codes

 and just found single one page with 77 hits. I tried: "append
boot=live", but it didn't work.

>live-boot *does* have these options. I've not used those in a while.
>'man 7 live-boot' mentions 'toram' and 'fromiso/findiso'.

>> I will need to log the boot process to study it.

>Perhaps you need 'debug', 'nosplash', and similar boot options. You might not need to use a serial device. Also for your convenience, run the live image in e.g. kvm, which simulates a serial device.

>See also the latest version of live-manual:
>https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/index.en.html

 and, especifically, on chapter:

 https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/overview-of-tools.en.html

 you find the explanation about how to parametrize the live start up
process with lb config, not exactly the start up one liner approach I
was very hopefully looking for

 I used and loved knoppix before there was DL. "Political" and
cultural aspects are interesting when it comes to technology. Here are
the google hits you get when searching for:

 knoppix toram: 2580
 knoppix bootfrom: 295,000

 I like that "bootfrom" iso thing so much, because for more than one
good reason I don't like the idea of carrying two laptops around. Even
though the "fast start" on Windows would not let you mount its hard
drives rw:

$ sudo lsblk
NAME        MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
loop0         7:0    0   2.1G  1 loop
/usr/lib/live/mount/rootfs/filesystem.squashfs
sr0          11:0    1   2.4G  0 rom  /usr/lib/live/mount/medium
nvme0n1     259:0    0 238.5G  0 disk
├─nvme0n1p1 259:1    0   260M  0 part
├─nvme0n1p2 259:2    0    16M  0 part
├─nvme0n1p3 259:3    0 237.7G  0 part
└─nvme0n1p4 259:4    0   526M  0 part

$ sudo blkid | grep ntfs
/dev/nvme0n1p3: BLOCK_SIZE="512" UUID="0880083680082CAE" TYPE="ntfs"
PARTLABEL="Basic data partition"
PARTUUID="a49b734e-47e3-40e5-a8d6-c31b764078ef"
/dev/nvme0n1p4: LABEL="Windows RE tools" BLOCK_SIZE="512"
UUID="00BC32C0BC32B050" TYPE="ntfs" PARTLABEL="Basic data partition"
PARTUUID="8cd3ccd8-fa9e-425f-955d-044324ab52d7"

$ sudo mkdir /media/nvme0n1p3

$ sudo mount --verbose --types ntfs /dev/nvme0n1p3 /media/nvme0n1p3
Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.
The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
Falling back to read-only mount because the NTFS partition is in an
unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation
or fast restarting.)
Could not mount read-write, trying read-only

$ sudo umount --verbose  /media/nvme0n1p3
umount: /media/nvme0n1p3 unmounted
$

 There is a way to bypass those kinds of problems when the drive is
hybernated but not while it is "fast start(ed)"

 I would like to place a DL iso in the Windows drive access it ro (in
a sense it is better so) and then let the DL DVD know what I need at
start up. I used to do exactly this with knoppix just fine, but DL
boots on quite literally anything and for some reason I would like to
investigate knoppix doesn't.

 lbrtchx


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