On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 04:21:43AM -0500, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
On 2/15/22, Thomas Anderson <thomas.anderson@little-beak.com> wrote:
Hello,
I have Bullseye installed on an SSD, it boots up fast as expected up
until the login screen.
I enter my login credentials...then, queue the music...just a darker
screen (not pitch black, flickering, or anything bad)
42 seconds later I get my desktop.
What video chipset? Does anything need firmware - it might just be hanging
and you end up with something closer to VESA mode if needed firmware isn't
there.
For what it's worth in comparing apples and oranges, I use XFCE4 and
that's about how long it takes here, too. Just have never set a timer
to it. It's been doing that for quite a while.
The difference is mine actually makes it into the desktop first. Then
it takes its sweet time depending on the requests I make of it.
Sometimes I can close the first couple packages I have it load at
startup (Mousepad and Thunar). Sometimes it takes a few seconds before
they respond.
Trying to click the Applications menu is a similar hit and miss until
after that maybe 40 seconds or so time span passes. Likewise with the
eventual disappearance of the "timer" or "throbber" that's visually
indicating something resource heavy is occurring in the background.
What vintage machine / what amount of memory / SSD? - and, also, what video
chipset? XFCE ought to be small/relatively fast.
Our two experiences may be completely unrelated. Then again, maybe
what we're each seeing is due to the priority each desktop gives to
what they load first. Seeing that dark screen would seem the more
distressing of the two because a User's not sure if the system's going
to load or not until the first of the GUI eventually pops up on the
screen.
I do have a Cinnamon desktop environment with a custom theme setup...but
still, 42 seconds? Can that be right? I have thought about using Mint,
but I have been using Debian for 20 years, see no reason to change now.
If need be, I will wait 42 seconds.
I've tried Mint a few times. It's a no from me because it won't let me
uninstall GRUB without destroying the entire operating system in the
process. The releases I've test driven won't uninstall GRUB without
auto-uninstalling a massive amount of important packages.
That's about User CHOICE, my preference being to try to use anything
except GRUB. That CHOICE is non-existent in this case.
That's one of the reasons I keep using Debian - and why support for
Debian-derived distributions here and in IRC can only be either
best endeavours / off-topic.
They do things differently elsewhere - sometimes better, sometimes worse -
but always differently and make their own choices.
All best to you all, as ever,
Andy Cater
Cindy :)
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Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
* runs with birdseed *