Re: You know what? Not only Debian but Fedora 35 has libthai too....and more
On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 12:06:27PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Hi guys
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> I ran some tests on almost all flavors of Fedora 35. They include:
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> "Default" edition
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> Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-35-1.2.iso
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> Network Installer
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> Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-35-1.2.iso
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> Fedora Spins such as
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> Fedora-Cinnamon-Live-x86_64-35-1.2.iso
> Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-35-1.2.iso
> Fedora-LXDE-Live-x86_64-35-1.2.iso
> Fedora-LXQt-Live-x86_64-35-1.2.iso
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> I actually installed each of the above and then in a terminal I typed:
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> dnf list --installed|grep khmer*
> dnf list --installed|grep thai*
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> and the following files were installed by default:
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> khmer-os-system-fonts.noarch
> libthai.x86_64
> thai-scalable-fonts-common.noarch
> thai-scalable-waree-fonts.noarch
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Go back to look at the Debian bug we referenced. This is eleven years old and
is the maintainer of (one of the variants of) libthai talking to the Debian
GNOME maintainer. "libpango should not depend on libthai" ... because ...
"I want to fork libthai and maintain it separately to bring it up to date".
The conversation goes backwards and forwards and then there's the
"OK - we need to make sure that it's there in any event, so if it's linked in
with libpango that's no problem ... please anyway include these patches"
"Sure thing, will do - but we're kind of busy with GNOME 3 at the moment, so
it will take some time"
And at that point the bug is left open - reminding people of what went on and
why the decision was made that way - and tagged wontfix
Very grateful to Simon McVitie (smcv) for pointing me to the original bug
number in IRC. The issue is as transparent as that, more or less.
> Fedora is the "upstream" of RHEL (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/fedora-and-red-hat-enterprise-linux/#:~:text=Red%20Hat%20Enterprise%20Linux%20(RHEL,of%20Red%20Hat%20Enterprise%20Linux.)
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> systemd was developed by Red Hat's folks, wasn't it? According to one camp, one of its nefarious intentions is to help the NSA to easily build backdoors to snoop on their targets of interest.
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If you worry about systemd, you're going to worry far more about SELinux ...
[Hint: Both are optional components of a Linux system.]
> Introducing Khmer fonts, Thai fonts and libthai could be another way for the three-letter-agencies' spooks to spy on the Linux community. What do you think?
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Or it could be a way to provide language support for a region of SE Asia with
several million people? Occam's razor applies: don't multiply causes for things
unless _absolutely_ necessary as real facts require it.
> Best regards.
>
> Stella
>
With every good wish, as ever,
Andy Cater
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