Re: Meta: behavior on list
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:41:40PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> deloptes wrote:
> > @Brian communication with Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside is meaningless and
> > a waste of time.
>
> You should have stopped here.
>
>
> > I even had to google her, because I had the feeling I talk to a troll. I
> > think she is extreme left ... lost in gendering and so on somewhere in
> > French Canada, but I do not have any evidence for that. However the
> > information I found
>
> At this point, you crossed the line in my head.
>
> There is no way in which the gender of any participant in
> debian-users is relevant. Nor their sexuality, religion, skin
> color, national origin, or even the fact that they use other
> operating systems from time to time.
See also the FAQ I post each month :)
>
> There are occasionally issues that relate to where someone is
> operating a computer -- WiFi bands, hardware availability, censorship
> issues come to mind -- but none of those are relevant in the
> current discussion, so whatever your problem with Canadians,
> Québécois(e) or Francophones is, I suggest that you forget about
> it until it becomes relevant.
>
> Finally, if someone doesn't bring up their politics on-list,
> there's no call for you to bring up their politics on-list. You
> can silently avoid helping as much as you please.
>
> And in conclusion, plonk!
>
> -dsr-
>
Be considerate to each other. Be polite - be helpful.
There's no need to dig into people's backgrounds to try and work out why
they annoy you - get over it and treat them well. When you annoy them,
with luck, they'll do the same.
Debian is a HUGE community - every political viewpoint, every religious
viewpoint, shades of sexual orientation and identity, shades of gender
- often the only thing that unites us is that we use/are interested in/
keep up with Debian.
That doesn't mean to say that personality doesn't come up - just that it's
a secondary consideration. Stick around for a while and you discover what
are hot topics - what you can say to push someone's crumple buttons.
[Everyone has a button/hot topic that sets them going: your attitude/your
tone or the words you use might remind them of an unfortunate situation/
bad experiences or just life experiences. Hit on it accidentally and you
can make them want to fight you/burst into tears or whatever - unexpected
quite often.]
Don't set out to punch people's crumple buttons: hit them
deliberately and some people double over just as much as if
you'd hit them in the stomach
Trying to make Debian a better place starts one post at a time. That's one
of the reasons why I volunteer for the Debian community team.
[And yes, this can readily be seen as pious politcal correctness liberal
bullshit and irrelevant and you can all ignore it - until the time when it
suddenly becomes important to you on an issue you care about - or you
appreciate someone more for trying to help you when you're down.]
And now back to tech stuff - and a release to get out :)
All best,
Andy C
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