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Re: Firefox HTTPS-only mode breaks sites that return 404 for HTTPS connections





On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:16 PM Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:57:01 +0100
piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> wrote:

> On 14/04/2021 17:19, Celejar wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I recently switched to Firefox's native HTTPS-Only mode from the
> > HTTPS Everywhere extension, and I've just made the nasty discovery that
> > a bunch of links that had been returning 404, which I had been assuming
> > were dead links, were actually perfectly valid pages, which Firefox had
> > been "upgrading" to HTTPS, and then getting 404s from web servers that
> > weren't offering them via HTTPS (but still apparently accepting
> > connections via HTTPS). Clicking on the little lock icon and turning
> > HTTPS-Only mode off for the website doesn't seem to have any effect -
> > the only thing that lets me actually access these pages is turning off
> > HTTPS-Only mode via the general Settings page (or about:config).
> >
> > When the website doesn't offer HTTPS at all, then Firefox offers to
> > connect via HTTP, after a warning, and that's fine. But having pages
> > become completely inaccessible is intolerable - I now have to check
> > every 404 I get by turning off HTTPS-Only mode and seeing if the
> > page is actually there. Am I missing something here, or is HTTPS-Only
> > mode just badly broken?
>
> It certainly works fine for me. I use https only mode for many months
> now. Can you bring an example of a page which returns good page on http,
> but 404 error on https?

http://www.daat.ac.il/
https://www.daat.ac.il/

Celejar

Indeed:  A "Universe Site" that I host on Linode doesn't use https.  So,
https://eyeblinkuniverse.com   --   doesn't work:  "Problem loading page - Unable to connect"
http://eyeblinkuniverse.com    --  Works properly on my version of Firefox:  Firefox 78.9.0esr (64-bit) on Debian Bullseye.

Does this mean that I can look forward to this failure, when the new Firefox comes out?  Why can't people still make simple, text-based web pages that can be read to a Blind Person?  See, I don't do forms, data entry, or anything on my opening screens.  For that, it links to a Blogspot, which uses some of Google's Bells and Whistles.

In other words, is this the end of the "Simple Web"?

Thanks!

Kenneth Parker

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