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Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...



On Friday 25 September 2020 07:54:54 Albretch Mueller wrote:

> On 9/25/20, Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:58:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> >> On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 17:50:16 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote:
> >> > >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg
> >> > >> from a public Windows machine?
> >> >
> >> > Why do you think you need to do this? What do you hope to achieve
> >> > by doing this?
> >>
> >> Perhaps the answer might be hinted at in postings like:
> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/10/msg00449.html
> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/08/msg00352.html
>
>  Yes, I am the one who posted both messages and, as I said, in my kind
> of reality I can't "simply" connect my work computer to the Internet
> and "just" go: apt-get ...
>
Your paranoia is excessive. I have 5 machines online ATM, but they are 
all on a local network in the 1902.168.xx.xx block, which is NOT 
routable from the internet but are NAT'd to my net address by having 
such a setup in a router running dd-wrt. In nearly 2 decades, no one has 
come into my systems from the internet that I didn't give the 
credentials to do so. dns is handled by host files locally, but a name 
that is unk to the host files is sent to the router where the resolution 
is done by my ISP's dns servers. Each of those machines has a cron job 
that updates software availability of updates on a daily basis, and thet 
can indeed sudo apt-get update|list --upgradable|upgrade.  Each can also 
run a browser and download an appimage, dpkg, tarball or whatever from 
any site on the net serving it.

Your inability to look at "security" in light of what is available to 
keep you secure, on a 24/7/365 basis by spending maybe $70 US on a 
router capable of being reflashed to run something like dd-wrt (theres 3 
or so others that can also do this) to serve as your guard dog, is a 
poor excuse indeed.

I even serve up my web pages such as they are, from this machine, but my 
connection is cheap and slow, so I do run a second copy of iptables on 
this machine which currently has 102 bot addresses blocked. It seems 
they want to mirror my site which uses up my upload bandwidth, 
constituting a DDOS.

I don't mind their indexing it, so the search engines can serve the 
results, but the minute I see them downloading everything they can 
touch, they get added to iptables and dropped.  Those blocked addy's 
are, because they are moved around to get around such blocking about 
weekly, are blocked on a /24, or for the bigger offenders, a /16 basis.  
That also blocks their paying subscribers too, but I officially don't 
care that they choose to use an ISP that also abuses the net residents  
like that.  Is it a war?  Sure it is, but computers never sleep, they 
can stand guard while you are sleeping. They don't need a vacation or 
time off duty.  Use them for what they are good at.
 
>  I never connect my work computer to the Internet. That is why I
> always install packages locally via dpkg, which is an option debian
> users have, no? I see a lot of people asking the same kinds of
> questiions I ask, so it seems as Lenon sang that "I am not the only
> one"

No you are not the only one, but you are a minority that does not always 
want to understand how to use the internet and be safe at the same time. 
It can be done, I'm doing it.  And I've been doing it since the later 
90's.

>  L
Like Greg,  I've said it, and done.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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