On 09/18/2020 07:29 AM, Andrew Cater wrote:
> Richard (et. al.)
>
> If you want an install without any Internet connectivity - you have one
> really good choice - but you may need someone to provide you with media
> made on another Debian machine.
My policy is to purchase at lease 1 complete DVD set of each Debian
release (typically not the initial release). I have several machines,
with one totally isolated from all others and dedicated to experiments.
A link to instructions for creating that media? TIA
>
> The jigdo file which produces a 16GB file for writing to a USB stick is,
> essentially, the first three DVDs plus a bit on one medium. It's directly
> bootable on a machine that supports boot from USB. it will boot in legacy
> (non-UEFI) and UEFI mode. It's ideal. The one thing it doesn't contain is
> firmware - but that can be written to another USB stick.One small, cheap,
> old stick, one newer stick and some internet connectivity _somewhere_ and
> you can do it.
Sounds like it was designed for someone more on the edge than I. I
rarely need anything not on DVD1.
>
> That way, everything is met. I have asked Sledge if he would be prepared to
> produce _another_ non-free image in 16GB size but he replied that it wasn't
> particularly worth the increased bother and storage size of maintaining the
> 16GB file for every point release when it could readily be regenerated.
I *agree*. What is needed is a set of instructions suitable for a
minimally competent Linux user.
>
> The alternatives are the BluRay media (or possibly the debian-edu media)
> both of which are around the same size.
>
> This isn't rocket science - but yours is a distinct edge case.
Before I retired, several employers found that a valuable trait.
> Installs to
> a partition and using the partition to bootstrap a second install are
> likely to be tested by only one person - yourself - and you would probably
> need to submit very detailed bug reports and a significantly compelling use
> case to achieve major changes.
Any bug reports would likely be against documentation rather than
against the software itself.
>
> All the very best, as ever,
>
> Andy C
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:21 AM Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>
>> On 09/17/2020 05:14 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>>> Richard Owlett composed on 2020-09-17 04:25 (UTC-0500):
>>>
>>>> I unsuccessfully tried to us use debootstrap several years ago.
>>>> Right now I specifically want to use the normal Debian installer on an
>>>> editable file system.
>>>
>>> Did you happen to notice what I wrote in
>>> <https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/09/msg00441.html>?
>>
>> Yes.
>> I think I have a counter example {haven't verified no operator error
>> involved} but I've been working on another fundamental issue --
>> understanding the installer.
>>
>>
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