Re: Buster with MATE without systemd

[Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net>]

	Hi.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:32:14AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> dbus, which is an xorg dependency,

Not in buster:

# apt policy dbus
dbus:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.12.20-0+deb10u1
  Version table:
     1.12.20-0+deb10u1 500
        500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages

# apt policy xserver-xorg
xserver-xorg:
  Installed: 1:7.7+19
  Candidate: 1:7.7+19
  Version table:
 *** 1:7.7+19 500
        500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


> but it itself has a systemd dependency.

Not in buster, again:

# apt policy dbus
dbus:
  Installed: 1.12.20-0+deb10u1
  Candidate: 1.12.20-0+deb10u1
  Version table:
 *** 1.12.20-0+deb10u1 500
        500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

# apt policy systemd
systemd:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 241-7~deb10u4
  Version table:
     241-7~deb10u4 500
        500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages


> To make a long story short, after two or so weeks of research and
> numerous failed trials, I came to the conclusion that systemd has
> become too entrenched in the dependency tree of Buster to successfully
> convert to systvinit.

But it is possible. Just forget about running any DE.


> Even trying to install something that has no systemd dependency at all
> depends on something, that depends on something else, etc. that has a
> systemd dependency.  And systemd gets reinstalled.

apt install something systemd-

Works wonders in cases such as this.

Reco