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Re: Deluged setup instructions/help



On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 Intense Red wrote:
  I want to set up a deluged server on Debian stable.

I don't know anything about deluge. I am idly curious.

Given how many bittorrent clients there are to choose from, may I ask
whether there is anything about deluge/deluged in particular that
makes you want to use it?

Or is it just the one you've used before, so you thought you'd stick
to something familiar?

You are perfectly free to ignore these questions if you'd rather stick
closer to the subject of your concern.

Installing the relevant packages

Name them. Which ones?

there are zero -- none, nada, zilch! -- instructions or example
config files.

There's a man page for deluged. That's not zero. You are exaggerating.

And the latest entry in

  /usr/share/doc/deluged/NEWS.Debian.gz

takes up a screen-and-a-half full of text in my console. That's quite
a lot of news, even if it is ten years old. (I downloaded the
package. I'm not installing it. Just curious.)

Also,

 $ apt-cache show deluged
 [...]
 Description-en: bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK (daemon)
  Deluge is a full-featured, multi-platform, multi-interface
  BitTorrent client using libtorrent-rasterbar in it's backend and
  featuring multiple user-interfaces: GTK+, web and console.
  .
  It has been designed using the client-server model with a daemon
  process that handles all the bittorrent activity. The Deluge daemon
  is able to run on headless machines with the user-interfaces being
  able to connect remotely from any platform.
  .
  You may want to install this package to run the daemon application
  on a remote server and connect to it from any user-interface.

  See: <URL:http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/UserGuide/ThinClient>
                                               ^^^^^^^^^
 [...]
 Homepage: http://www.deluge-torrent.org/

Don't get me wrong. I'm not claiming the documentation is great. Or
complete. Maybe it is, maybe it aint.

I wouldn't know, haven't attempted to follow it, and I'm quite happy
with a different bittorent client (which at times has itself had some
pretty spotty documentation), so I have no plans to do so.

But docs for this package (and related packages) are not non-existent.

  From my perspective deluged nor deluge-web does not install itself
in any sort of a working or bare-bones configuration which is the
norm for debian- packaged programs.

Looking on the web there are a ton of various "guides" to install
deluged,

Er, the web never forgets. So that's always how its going to be. 90%
of everything is crap, and most of the rest is going to be obsolete
cruft too.

So you check out the developer's current website first. Look for
guides there first.

You query your distribution's packaging tools for its location if
you're at all unsure. And so on. Read its posted FAQ. And so on.

Did you do that first? Where *did* you look first? (If you used a
search engine first thing off the bat, don't even answer. Shame on
you. PEBKAC.)

but nothing for current versions of Debian and many of the guides suggest
doing all sorts of "odd" things (like creating /etc/systemd/system/
deluged.service files

Well, in a way that isn't odd at all. Creating such files one way or
another is pretty damn normal. But sure, creating them all on your
lonesome, by writing them from scratch is pretty damn weird.

Good for you, for noticing that you were reading inappropriate
docs, and knowing that you shouldn't blindly follow them.

and other lower-level tasks that it seems normal Debian packages
already do.

  Questions:

Can anyone suggest a recent/up-to-date guide on how to get a running
deluged up and running?

Suggest? Sure. Already have. I pointed you to the developer's own
website. Like some kind of genius.

I do not, and cannot, vouch for its effectiveness though. If something
seems off to you about the developer's own site, then that's some
news.

Post the link and be specific about the issue. Because that would be
useful information.

Does this lack of basic documentation/example config files

Assumes facts not in evidence, Your Honor.

mean a bug report should be filed against deluged?

If it really isn't there, sure.

Good luck.

--
You won't feel the collar if you don't go anywhere.


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