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Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed



On Tuesday 07 July 2020 12:26:58 Peter Ehlert wrote:

> On 7/7/20 9:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 07 July 2020 11:32:04 David Wright wrote:
> >> On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 10:06:08 (-0400), rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >>>> If you are the kind of person who MUST HAVE THE LATEST THING,
> >>>> then Debian is not meant for you.
> >>>
> >>> Wow, not sure what sparked that response,
> >>
> >> Probably the fact that there have been a lot of postings about
> >> testing recently, which seem to think testing is whatever they want
> >> it to be. For example, the thread on testing's imaginary "security
> >> policy".
> >>
> >>> but I will say one thing, you might
> >>> run testing if your bank insists you have the latest thing
> >>> (browser).
> >>
> >> Yeh, right. Use the suite that's lacking a security policy to carry
> >> out all your financial transactions. ?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> David.
> >
> > I'd tend to look at it like this: If the banks IT people think its a
> > big enough risk to use the old version, and demands the new one even
> > before the paint is dry, then it must be pretty serious and the
> > distros should turn up the heat to get it out into the users hands
> > asap. Not sit on it till the next release a year hence as seems to
> > happen now, using the excuse that it is a new feature and that has
> > to wait for the next chapter of the release cycle.
>
> I had that conversation with the IT goofball for my bank (credit
> union) last Monday and Tuesday when they "updated" their crapware and
> blocked me.
>
I had a similar experience a decade back, essentially matching one from 3 
decades back and found that my threats to move the account were more 
than sufficient to "get it fixed".  Seems as how a middle 5 digit 
checking account carries considerable weight.  I've only had one problem 
since, they changed something that prevented any dates from printing in 
my online statements, they showed onscreen but were blank when printed, 
ruining any chance of using them in court to settle an argument. I 
arrived with smoke coming out of both ears and had the local manager put 
me back on paper statements.  Suits me just fine and I'm no longer out 
the hassle of doing my own statements.  The monthly usually has a "go 
paperless" blow-in that gets recycled by way of the shredder.

> it was far from painless but a couple links to the security statements
> in the Debian Wiki was enough to get a complete backpedal and endorse
> Debian Stable with Firefox-ESR.
> Please don't use them as a barometer.

My experience has been otherwise. Threatening the cash cow with a diet 
works well.

> > Unfortunately, the public is now so used to some so-called expert
> > crying wolf when its a mongrel puppy, that they've gone to the dark
> > side and are no longer making that noise in hopes the black hats
> > will be slowed in exploiting the newly found vulnerability. So we
> > are left in the dark. 'scuse me?
> >
> > So we the users, are damned if we do, and damned if we don't.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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