Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 08:50:44PM +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote:
> > What is searched for in Debian is the ability to remove the bloatware
> > which was not present at the time of installation.
>
> But... but... it's precisely DURING the installation that most of the
> crappy "bloatware" GETS ONTO THE SYSTEM!
What?!
>
> How meny people do you think install GNOME or KDE or XFCE separately
> after the install, as opposed to ACCEPTING A DEFAULT during the install?
The way you put it, those GNOME or KDE or XFCE would be part of the
"pristine system" and I'm fine with it.
But *many* people do install productivity tools, office tools, games,
developer environments separately after the install, and then regret it
and wish to get rid of them cleanly.
>
> > > dpkg --get-selections > /root/initial-packages
> > >
> > > Just hold on to that file, and it will allow you to return to this
> > > state on the same machine, or conceivably even a different machine.
> >
> > Out of itself, this file will not allow me anything. But Charles Curley
> > has named the debfoster utility which seems to do the closest thing to
> > what I wanted to achieve.
>
> What?!
>
> It does PRECISELY WHAT YOU STATED you wanted to do!
Well, I wanted a degree of automation, not just a
"dpkg --get-selections | diff /root/initial-packages -" for visual
analysis and manual removal.
>
> > Thanks again to Charles and if there are no other propositions, I think
> > we can close this thread.
>
> Because you cannot be reasoned with? Sure, yes, OK, that is definitely
> a reason for me to stop talking to you.
>
> I stand by everything I've said here. You have a secret agenda, and
> your stated goal, which I told you how to accomplish, is not your
> actual goal.
I like conspiracy theories too.
> That's why you rejected the solution you were given.
I did not reject the solution I was given. I thanked Charles Curley for
it, I think, at least twice.
>
> Call me bitchy or whatever you want, but I can SENSE this bullshit from
> a mile away, and this is why I react the way I do.
You react the way you do because you turned out not flexible enough to
understand the problem and not knowledgeable enough to suggest a solution,
which other people did.
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Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/
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