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Re: Ethernet trouble



On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 12:19:19PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:32:32PM +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:10:25AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> >>because they don't need to know that. This is an issue
> >>mostly for people who know a little bit, want to tinker, and become
> >>irrationally angry when they need to learn something new.)
> >
> >This is insulting. I'll try to explain.
> 
> Also, it's not insulting, it's descriptive. I'll explain.
> 
> >Once I understood it, my reaction was "meh".
> 
> And that's fine. In that case, the interface names *are not an
> issue*. They're just something that's there. If you don't like them,
> you change them. No big deal, not an issue, just a thing that can be
> configured to personal taste.

Kept from your previous post:

  "So does dismising everything new as broken because it fixes
   things you don't care about."

And this is exactly what I perceive as highly insulting: I don't
dismiss "everything new as broken...". It's a classical anti-pattern
in this discussion: "You're just resistant to change" =~ "you have
actually no sensible argument". That seems subtle, but it is
pretty condescendent.

That's not better than...

> But some people don't just say "meh",
> they get angry. They insult the software, they insult the
> developers [...]

And I find that unacceptable too. Especially insulting people.
I'm on record for coming forward and speaking up against that,
too.

I'd hope we could just get along and respect each other.

Cheers
-- tomás

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