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Re: Debian Installer, Manual Partitioning is a Joke



I am no expert but I am more than willing to follow along.
Perhaps you have found a bug.
I don't have an optical drive, I use USB, but that should not matter.

On 10/13/19 3:56 PM, Wayne Sallee wrote:
The non-graphical needs work too:
There's no manual partitioning option without going first to guided partitioning, so if you don't like the way it wants to partition the drive, and you look for manual parition, that option is not available. Odly enough the manual partition option is only available inside the guided partition options.

There's a false warning about no root file system defined. Chosing "continue" gets you back to the partition options, and the root partition shows normal, but if you chose the root partition to fix it, there are a lot of options missing. It's broken. You have to choose "back", or "guided" partitioning to fix it.





So if you want to follow along for the ride, put the 10.1.0 Live Install CD in, and when you get to the partition option,
10.1.0 Live?
Let's be more precise.

looking in https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/10.1.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
I find 8 different versions (desktops) ... Which ISO are you using?

Graphical Debian Installer

Language, and other stuff :-)

Guided Use Entire Disk

Continue on selected disk

All files on on partition

Click on Swap

Delete the partition

Click on Primary Extention 4

Resize partition
There is no resize partition.  Really???

So I guess we will have to delete the partition
Delete Partition

Create Partition
There is no create partition.

Click on empty space.

Create Partition

Continue

Primary

Looks good.
Continue.

Ext4

Didn't we just see this same page before?
Continue

Ext 4

Ok, we are going in circles here.
Around and around we go, where we stop nobody knows.

Done setting up partition

Good we are not going in circles any more.

Continue

We are going in circles again.

Continue

Finish partitioning, and write changes to disk.

no swap
continue

yes write to disk
continue

Finally it's installing.










Now let's try it with Debian live 9.2.0

Graphical Installer

Language, and other stuff :-)

Guided Use Entire Disk

Continue on selected disk

All files in one partition

Click on main disk
Nothing happens.

Double click on main disk.
What's this???

Go back.

Click on Swap
Nothing happens. That's fine.
Double click on swap

Delete partition.

Double click on ext4

Resize Partition
What no resize option???
Delete partition

Click on free space

Create new partition

Looks good
Continue

Primary

Continue
Oh yes this is where it goes in circles.

Hey look there is a resize partition option whey was it not there before?

Done setting up partition.

Looks good
Continue.
Oh yes this is where we go in circles again.
Finish partition and write to disk.

No swap continue

What?? why is "write the changes to disk" in small dim letters?
So after reading all the other not so clear stuff I see the "write the changes to disk", oh there it is, yes, do it.


What??? yes the hard drive has files on it, yes it will overwrite, yes I know that, but why is it complaining that those files could cause a problem with the current installation ????? And some of the files may be overwritten??? They should all be overwritten.  Something is obviously wrong here. I'll click continue anyway. :-)

Install failed. It does not really say why. It just said that the "install the system" failed.

Continue

Continue

We are going in circles again. It is again saying that there are files already on the disk.

No Back button. What happened to the "back" button ???

Continue

Yes of course it fails.

Continue

Partition disk

It looks good, but click on ext4 partition anyway.

"Format partition: no keep partition"  What????

Delete the partition

Click on free space
Nothing happens.
Double click on free space.
Nothing happens.

Continue

Create new partition (There's no "Delet partiton")

Size looks good
Continue

Primary

I can see that it is really not going to create a partition, it is going to reuse the partition with data on it.
But at least now there is an option to "delet partition"
Delete Partition

Click on free space

Create new partition.

Size looks good.
Continue

Primary

It still does not look right, but let's try clicking on "Done setting up the partition" and see if it works.
Done setting up the partition
Double clicking did not do anything.
Continue
Let's go back and try double clicking again.
Back
Whoa What are we doing back at the main menue.



I'm tired of this.
Goodby.


I'm using the non-graphical version from now on.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
http://www.WayneSallee.com





-------- Original Message --------
*Subject: *  Re: Debian Installer, Manual Partitioning is a Joke
*From: *     Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com>
*To: *         Debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
*CC: *        
*Date: *      2019-10-2  08:28 AM

Thanks for coming back Wayne

Can you please take a few minutes and explain Exactly which items you are having trouble with.

On 10/1/19 10:34 AM, Wayne Sallee wrote:
(snip)

With the graphical version, some items when you click on them, you get some kind of results, other items when you click on them, do nothing.
With the graphical version, it takes you in circles. Around and around you go, where you'll stop nobody knows.
With the graphical version it takes for ever to try to get simple things done.
^^ that really does not say anything sir. "some items" , "some kind of results" , "in circles" etc.

please explain

Yes, it is a bit intimidating the first few times around, but pleas help us out.





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