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Thanks for coming back Wayne
Can you please take a few minutes and explain Exactly which items
you are having trouble with.
On 10/1/19 10:34 AM, Wayne Sallee
wrote:
(snip)
With the graphical version, some items when you click on them,
you get some kind of results, other items when you click on
them, do nothing.
With the graphical version, it takes you in circles. Around and
around you go, where you'll stop nobody knows.
With the graphical version it takes for ever to try to get
simple things done.
^^ that really does not say anything sir. "some items" , "some kind
of results" , "in circles" etc.
please explain
Yes, it is a bit intimidating the first few times around, but
pleas help us out.
Wayne
Sallee writes:
What partitioning tool are you talking
about?
Wayne Sallee
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When I think of the debian partitioning tool, I think of this
one:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2014/04/pngqsHcq7etg4.png
It is very good in the sense that it exposes a lot of features
(e.g. wrt.
RAID, Encryption and LVM) in a consistent user interface. At
least it is
much more consistent, than interacting with the different
software pieces
for RAID, Encryption, LVM separately.
It has worked well for me every time I used it and that was
possibly ~30
times and at least three different Debian versions (I think I
installed
lenny, squeeze, stretch). It has not stayed exactly the same
between the
versions, but it does not change in ways that would confuse
users which know
(any?) previous version.
I have seen a lot of other partitioning tools, integrated in
installers and
outside of them. Outside installers, tools are often more
focused on a
specific task (like Gparted to do partitions and partition
tables but not
RAID setup etc) which means one would need to learn multiple
tools to
achieve a working system. To learn how it works, I also setup
MDADM-Raid
and LUKS-Encryption a few times by using the respective tools,
but it was
much more involved than just relying on the installer. From my
point of
view, the installer does such good a job at partitioning, that
it would make
sense to have just that feature as a standalone program to call
on systems
which are already installed [I know that I can boot the
installer for this,
but partitioning without stopping unaffected services would be
nice, too].
The other partitioning systems I have seen in installers were
often quite
strange, because they tend to offer a "guided" mode like Debian,
but in the
"manual" mode still do some (to me sometimes unexpected) things
automatically. E.g. if you install Windows 10, IIRC, there is a
manual
partitioning step which automatically creates two partitions if
you create
one for the system drive... Another style of installation is
with the CentOS
installer: I think I like it acceptably well, too. But being a
more "modern"
looking GUI program, I must admit that for the few times I have
used that
installer's partitioning features (three times or so), I needed
to figure
out how to "apply" my changes anew each time. Debian's
dialog-driven wizard-
like interface requires a few more keystrokes, but makes
indicates quite
clearly if it has taken a user's input or not, thus I think it
is better-
suited for this critical but rarely-executed task.
[Note that I am not N. Dobigeon, just /my/ opinion on what the
Debian
Partitioning tool and its merits are in case it might help to
find out what
exactly is wrong about the partitioning step and how it can be
improved...]
YMMV
Linux-Fan
*Subject: * Re: Debian Installer,
Manual Partitioning is a Joke
*From: * Nicolas Dobigeon
Your mail is a joke,
I think debian partitionning tool is the best i tried.
It's your taste but don't tell it's a joke.
Le 29/09/2019 à 16:56, Wayne Sallee a écrit :
Debian really needs to work on the
manual partitioning part of the
installation.
It's absolutely pathetic.
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