Re: forcedeth?
On Saturday 25 May 2019 07:33:01 am Andy Smith wrote:
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 06:52:00AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > the installer locked me to ipv6, and the nearest ipv6 connectivity
> > is probably in Pittsburgh PA, 140 some miles north of me. The
> > installer hasn't brains enough to try ipv4 when it can't find
> > anything working in ipv6.
>
> My recollection was that none of that was ever established in any of
> the threads you posted here, so that is a really weird thing to keep
> stating. Did IPv6 use all your toilet paper and kick your dog or
> something?
>
> Andy
You just pulled my trigger.
No Andy, it didn't drink my last beer (Murphy does that), or kill any
kittens but it did totally disable ipv4. How? Simply by refusing to
apply a route/gateway to the ipv4 settings we do manually. And depending
on the phase of the moon, those of us on host file networks are forced
to edit the /e/n/i/config files and immediately chattr +i them in order
to protect them from N-M's incessant meddling, ditto for resolv.conf,
which we have to make into a real file, and chattr +i it for the same
reason. For a while we could remove N-M on armhf-jessie but now its
somehow linked to our choice of desktops so the only way is to rm it by
hand, or chattr +i everything it touches. N-M at least has the common
decency to not complain or go crazy when it finds itself locked out of
its playpen. Unforch I can't say the same for hpfax, in the hplip
package you get with cups. Its crashed this machine 6 or 7 times by
killing hid-common, leaving the only working button the reset button on
the machines front panel. Somebody put a call to hpfax in the root
crontab, and when it gets called with nothing to do it goes postal
killing all input devices on the usb bus by killing hid-common. A
separate problem of course, one that hp needs to fix before buster goes
live.
You folks with ipv6 all think we should all just switch and be done with
it, but the nearest ipv6 connection to me is probably 140 miles north of
here in Pittsburgh. So we're stuck on ipv4. My router doesn't pass it,
my isp supplied cable modem doesn't pass it and you folks should be
aware, first and foremost, that ipv6 does NOT cover the planet yet. 10%
of it maybe on a geographical basis. The rest of us are stuck on ipv4
and we are being punished because there's nothing we can do about it.
You all claim that N-M won't bother an interface defined as static. Thats
an outright blatant lie, I've had it tear down working interfaces half a
dozen times in the last month on two different stretch installs, one
arm64 and one amd64 because I wasn't quick enough with the sudo chattr
to lock a file I had just edited with the properly marked as static
data. I took the time to ping yahoo.com, got a response and N-M tore it
down before I could lock it.
Put a kill switch in that puppy. defaulted to off. And take a survey to
see how many have turned it on a year from now. I'll be apologetic if
its more than the 5% carrying their lappy to dunkin donuts.
/ipv6 rant.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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