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Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 18:42:38 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 15:09:09 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> [...]
> > But how do Debian list servers know ?
> A good question. How are my mails matched with my subscribed address
> so that I am awarded the accolade of LDOSUBSCRIBER? On the basis that
> my past statements about the SMTP protocol (whatever they were) have
> not been well received, I decline to offer any suggestion.

Have we been told what your subscribed address is? I've assumed
that it's the one in the envelope-from of the post I'm replying to.
(I don't want to quote it.) Is that correct? Or maybe that …CII.eu one?

> > Is it because Exim 4.89 said "MAIL FROM:<...subscribed.address...>" to
> > lists.debian.org ?
> "subscribed.address" is the HELO and can be what I want it to be. See
> the headers of my previous mail.

Why would you use a "subscribed.address" (presumably an email address)
for your HELO (presumably actually a EHLO). I was under the impression
that it should be a domain, ie a FQDN.

> > Or is it because the first mail hop added "envelope-from" to its Received:
> > header ?
> > 
> >   Received: from ... by ... with local (Exim 4.89)
> >           (envelope-from <...>)
> >           id 1iHRiB-0006S7-Ks
> >           for debian-user@lists.debian.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2019 13:01:59 +0100
> I can alter that too, and still be designated LDOSUBSCRIBER.

Have we observed that? I only had LDOSUBSCRIBER bestowed on me when my
envelope-from became the same as my subscribed address, which followed as
a consequence of my adopting the .corp domain name last year after seeing
Until then, exim4 didn't seem able to rewrite my headers because I
didn't have a dot in my FQDN, only an unadorned hostname.


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