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Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade



On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 11:06:43 +0200, john doe wrote:

> On 8/15/2019 6:52 PM, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 14 Aug 2019 at 07:36:21 +0200, john doe wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Rico, and thanks for your answer.
> >>
> >> On 8/13/2019 9:25 PM, Reco wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 08:07:49PM +0200, john doe wrote:
> >>>> I have no plan to reboot that server, what are the pros and cons of not
> >>>> doing that
> >>>
> >>> Pro: keeping uptime
> >>> Con: keeping previous, possibly buggy, version for dbus running.
> >>>
> >>>> or how can I avoid rebooting altogether?
> >>>
> >>> dbus is not mandatory and is redundant for typical server software.
> >>> If you don't need it - just uninstall it. Simple as that.
> >>>
> >>
> >> okay, dbus is only required when a DE (Gnome,Mate, ...) is present.
> >> If I'm correct, and given the fact that I don't use a DE, I could look
> >> at safely remove it?
> >
> > You are not correct. 'apt rdepends dbus' is worth looking at.
> >>
> 
> Okay, as far as I understand it, depends means that it will be pulled as
> an dependency but not that it is required for it to work properly.
> What I'm starting to realise is that to much dependencies are pulled to
> implement lots of feature that is not always necessery.
> 
> 
> Before posting to the list, a google search let me think that dbus is
> only required when DE is wanted.
> Do you have online documentation that would explain why dbus is required
> when no DE is used?

As

https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/

says:

  > D-Bus is a message bus system, a simple way for applications to
  > talk to one another.

There is no mention of DEs on that page. dbus is for any application to
talk to any other application.
 
> P.S.
> 
> The Debian bugreport provided in this thread seems to corroborate your
> pointbut  I can't find something tangible to back that up.

As Reco said:

  > If you don't need it - just uninstall it.

What do you get for 'apt purge dbus'?

-- 
Brian.


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