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Re: Paypal and Linux in a low graphics environment.

Actually I tried the text file first, to simply see if the browser would work...at all.
Then I left the program running edbrowse www.paypal.com
I agree there may be something with the config file, which I cannot even find if it gets created. Communicating with Karl the developer indicates he is having some tough times these days. Have asked Ken where the edbrowse files go so I can find my config, since I have a users guide already.

On Thu, 15 Nov 2018, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Had you got edbrowse to load a text file from any other website before
you tried paypal?  If not, probably edbrowse loaded your text file on
paypal and you didn't know that load had happened.  In the configuration
file if memory serves a default prompt level is set and the level is by
default for experienced edbrowse users with minimal interaction.  It
could also be a debug level.  In either case output from any debug when
edbrowse fails to work on a site ought to be sent to the developer since
maybe a little more of the javascript corpus needs to be made
interactive in edbrowse for the failing site to work.

On Thu, 15 Nov 2018, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:36:33
From: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net>
To: Will Mengarini <seldon@eskimo.com>
Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>,
    Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Paypal and Linux in a low graphics environment.
Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 17:36:52 +0000 (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

We already have edbrowse here.
Unless you have successfully used it at paypal, meaning you can correct what
happens  when I tried using it there  when my problems first started, I am
unsure of the point.
 granted the person who created the software did not think it will work there
so if you have benn successful at paypal let me know.
I could not even get ebrowse  to load a text file.

On Thu, 15 Nov 2018, Will Mengarini wrote:

* Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> [18-11/13=Tu 18:04 -0500]:
[...] I only have access to Linux via a shell.  [Using "modern"
sites like PayPal is hard because of graphics, JS, etc.]  Changes
in the past week or so makes even elinks a problem.  Ideas?

* Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> [18-11/14=We 15:55 -0500]:
Tried browsh (https://www.brow.sh/)?

Another option is Edbrowse <http://edbrowse.org/>.
It is extremely hardcore <http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.txt>.

* Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> [18-11/14=We 17:06 -0500]:
[...] before I ask the shellworld.net administrator to
consider [browsh], I wish to know it works.

* Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> [18-11/14=We 18:03 -0500]:
Unfortunately browsh isn't ready for prime time
anywhere for screen reader users.

Edbrowse has the advantage of offering statically-linked binaries at
<http://edbrowse.org/static/>; instead of asking your administrator
to set it up, you can just download the 32-bit or 64-bit binary
into your <~/bin> (which is presumably in your $PATH) and run it.
I have done this and it works, but I have not tried PayPal.

That installation will not get any documentation, of course.
<http://www.linuxcertif.com/man/1/edbrowse/> is a third-party
man page; the substance of it is in English, though it's
hosted on a French server so has some prolegomena and
epilegomena in French; those can be ignored.  The same
server also hosts <http://www.linuxcertif.com/man/1/ed/>,
which is what you really need to start grokking ed.

When you first run edbrowse, it will create a default config file
for you, and warn you about it.  I was able to use edbrowse without
initially modifying my config file; just ignore it until you need it.

The shell command 'edbrowse http://edbrowse.org/usersguide.html'
browses the the user's guide.  To page through that file,
start with the ed command '0z24' to get the first 24 lines;
then, 'z' for each subsequent 24 lines; finally, 'q' to exit.

A quick reference guide begins at line 289 of that
(rendered) file, which has a total of 3,522 lines.

There is a wiki at <https://github.com/CMB/edbrowse/wiki>,
which I was able to access with Lynx; it contains instructions
for making it accessible with Edbrowse (markdown is involved,
and you need to edit your config file for that).  It also has
tips for Twitter and Facebook, but doesn't mention PayPal.

You can edit your config file, <~/.ebrc>, by running the shell command
'edbrowse -c'.  The file starts with stuff like mail accounts, for
which you may prefer not to put passwords on <shellworld.net>.  You
can just ignore that stuff (i.e leave the invalid examples unchanged),
and only make the changes you need, such as markdown support.

Apropos <shellworld.net>, I couldn't even find a home page for them;
all accesses were "ERROR 403: Forbidden".  I'm paying $7/month for
a shell account at Eskimo North that gives me access to 13 different
distributions on virtual servers, as well as the usual amenities like
mail, news, and my own web site; and tech support is very responsive.
You might want to investigate <http://www.eskimo.com/>.

                Will Mengarini  <seldon@eskimo.com>
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