Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

[rhkramer@gmail.com]

Thanks for the reply! -- some comments below:

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:47:10 PM Miles Fidelman wrote:
> On 10/24/18 6:45 AM, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:32:15 AM Miles Fidelman wrote:
> > > Yes, but you really need a PUBLIC static IP address, or things tend to
> > > 
> > > get hairy.  Dynamic DNS will help, but only to a point.  And, a lot of
> > > 
> > > ISPs really don't like it if you run servers at the edge.
> > 
> > We are currently such a small group, I don't think it will be an issue
> > -- if that changes, we can change.
> 
> Which - DynDNS or ISP objections?

I don't think ISP objections will be an issue with the size or our group (and 
the apparent reluctance of many to post).

> The thing about dynamic DNS is that people cache DNS records - mail sent
> to the list WILL go to the wrong place on occasion.
> 
> Re. ISP objections - those objections sometimes take the form of active
> measures that block various kinds of traffic.
> 
> > > Bummer.  But maybe another, larger, Linux user group might help you
> > > 
> > > out?  I expect there might be somebody on this list who might volunteer
> > > 
> > > (hint, hint).  Maybe somebody at a nearby university - I believe you
> > > 
> > > have a few of those in the Lehigh Valley :-)
> > 
> > We've had somebody make such an offer, and we'll probably take them up
> > on it -- I sort of wanted to try to set up a small mail list on one of
> > my computers, as long as I didn't have to run a web server or a *nix
> > style MTA
> 
> Now that is kind of hard to do.  All the mailing list servers that I've
> worked with require a rather intimate interconnection with the MTA that
> processes mail.  

As stated somewhere, we're almost certainly going to accept the offer to host 
the mail list for us.

But, just for my education / edification, I didn't see mention of an MTA for 
courier-pop -- have you used it and does it require that same intimate 
connection to an MTA?

And the only dependency listed for quickml is ruby, so I'm guessing that might 
not require that intimate connection.

(And, talking to myself, I saw several others that mentioned procmail, and I 
didn't immediately consider that an MTA because I have used it in the past but 
only for its mail filtering function.  (Or am I thinking of a different 
package?))


















> And that's before you "wire in" anti-spam and
> anti-virus filters.  And, you'll need a webserver for access to various
> administrative functions, and archive access.  Depending on the list
> server, you might also require a dbms.  Setting up list services can be
> an entertaining and educational exercise (also frustrating), but it's
> not simple.  (Actually, the simplest approach is using an MTA and
> managing lists in the alias file.)