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Re: The new normal of logging

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 02:22:35PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
  On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <[1]J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    Roberto C. Sánchez:

      Is this the new normal, for things to get captured in some systemd log [...]?

    * [2]https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/294206/5132 Yes.

  Thanks for that. And quoting that article....
  " And there's also systemd, that is slowly phagocytosing the UNIX part of Linux...."

In my opinion, most of the bad press that systemd gets is down to its implementation, rather than its purpose. Writing an init system that spawns shell scripts to start daemons is easy, but the shell scripts lead to all sorts of bad code. The declarative syntax of systemd/upstart/etc init systems is MUCH cleaner.

Similarly, writing the syslog to a plain text file is easy, but it makes parsing times difficult, it can lose some of the finer points of meaning and so on. A binary format is, really, nothing to be feared, so long as the format is as well defined as plain text (because, when you look at it, plain text IS binary, it's just an astoundingly well-agreed encoding).


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