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Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 13:56:37 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 06:42:04PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 11:38:40 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > On Tue 17 Oct 2017 at 19:32:11 (+0500), Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
> > > > Deprecated doesn't mean it doesn't exist or work anymore at all, it
> > > > means it isn't supported anymore and should not be used.
> > > > Look it up, it was deprecated for quite some time.
> >  https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8737 
> So it's deprecated in Mageia GNU/Linux?  OK.  If I were a Mageia user (or
> had ever heard of it before today) that might carry some weight with me.
> Just curious, what are Mageia users expected to use instead of startx if
> they want to start a traditional X session from a console?  Or is that
> no longer a supported configuration at all?  (By traditional, I mean
> a ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc file that contains "exec twm" or whatever
> window manager you prefer.)

I see no evidence from a quick look at their website and the wiki
that they support (or ever supported) X without a DE. I may be wrong;
it's difficult to prove a negative. I'd be interested in a reference
to a counter-example.

> Did they simply throw every window manager under the bus and say "Nope,
> sorry, you gotta run a desktop environment now"?

Did they ever support WMs? If not, then they wouldn't have any reason
to get rid of them, and what would they have used startx for. Why
would they have any reason to deprecate it rather than just ignore it?


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