Re: No ifconfig
On 19.08.17 18:40, Brian wrote:
> I know this thread has been a long, interesting and involved one but it
> included this:
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/msg00798.html
>
> To remind ourselves (about why net-tools is not in the base system):
>
> Indeed. It shouldn't, and it doesn't anymore. Maybe net-tools should
> be part of the *standard* system, but it certainly does not belong to
> the *base* system anymore.
>
> Continuing:
>
> It is broken in that it just *can't* handle the Linux networking stack
> except for the bare minimum functionality on IPv4 (no, it doesn't meet
> even the bare minimum for IPv6), and the only reason we had to keep it
> around by default (consistent output that some scripts scrapped) was
> broken by GNU upstream when it took ifconfig out of the bit-rot pit hell
> and started maintaining it again.
Any reasonable reader of this thread accepts that it should not be in
the base distro, I'm certain. It would be an act of generosity to old
fogeys to include it in the standard distro. (They're probably not running
IPv6, if Gene and I are any guide.)
But it took only a moment to apt-get the package, giving me ifconfig on
debian 9.0, and nullifying all reason to seek any default inclusions.
Gene, if ya can make your own nipples for black powder longarms, then a
bit of DIY debian isn't a show stopper, I figure.
I've nibbled on the skinny end of "ip" by using "ip route" in lieu of
"netstat -rn" in the last few days, and could get used to some of it.
Erik
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