Re: How to get Jessie to run at boot time -- Problem solved
On Tue 13 Sep 2016 at 13:01:58 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:
> You were asked for some information. You declined to provide it. As a
> route to solving a technical problem your response leaves a lot to be
> desired.
> Did you read why I declined? I repeat my reason for your benefit:
I imagine your question is rhetorical, so it has no real edge to it and
does not require me to give an impression of an affronted user. The
repetition is unnecessary as it simply confirms you went into "sod this
for a game of soldiers" mode and started digging a deeper hole for
yourself.
> getting information from my only partially installed Jessie means
> shutting down my Windoze OS(I'm writing this from my Windows OS),
> turning on my Jessie, and writing a bunch of detailed information on
> a piece of paper, shutting down Jessie and returning to Windoze and
> transcribing what my paper said to an E-mail. That process requires
> a lot of error-prone steps, and you or someone else might have called
> for an iteration, which would have driven me up the wall.
>
> The output of interest is from os-prober. You know what it, unless you
> are so uninterested in seeking a solution you haven't even run it or are
> keeping what it says to yourself.
> I ran os-prober. I can't here reproduce what it gave me, but it
> didn't reveal the OS that came with the just purchased machine.
Even saying that would have given us a hook to hang a response on. Not
giving a precis alongside your other output was a bad move because it
altered the focus. Verbatim output is always best but a summary is
better than nothing.
Verbatim output =10/10
Verbatim output+whine =7/10 (Diverts responses away from output)
Summary =6/10 (There is some value in it)
Summary+whine =3/10 (Diverts responses away from output)
Whine only =0/10
> Which leads me to my often-stated conclusion: since the install
> program stated "No other OS can be found on this machine", the
> installer is broken.
Broken? Mmm. Windows 10 was released on 29th July 2015. The Jessie
installer was released on 25th April 2015; there are indeed updates to
it but only for important features like security.
"Ah", you will say, what about d-i's DivineTheFuture package? Well, it
failed abysmally, although some Debian developers made a fortune from
betting on the Grand National using its predictions. (Warning: Fantasy
module switched on full).
> You may be interested to know that the Debian Fairy has waved her magic
> wand and made your machine dual bootable. From os-prober's changelog on
> unstable:
> Good grief, Brian. What I have is Jessie. But it is good to
> know that attention is being paid to this issue, and the installer
> for stretch may be an improvement.
You've completely missed the point. Try saying to yourself
I wish my machine had a file like unstable's or testing's
and then figure out how it could have such a file. (The os-prober output
would tell you whether what you did worked). This is the central section
in this mail. If you reply to anything you should reply to this.
> > Finally: I have taken a resolution not to respond to further chastisement or smarm.
> > Please help me to keep it!
>
> I don't do smarm. If you perceived what I wrote to be that, it reveals a
> weakness in my irony, sarcasm and mild insults modules.
> <LOL> I did perceive it. Advice: delete your ISMI module and pay
> more attention to your courteous and helpful module. Which I'm sure
> exists<g>.
It doesn't seem possible. Every time I make an attempt I hear a melody
and a voice singing "Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer....."
> A final question: I've used Wiktionary to learn that 'whinging' is the English
> for what we Murricans call 'whining'. Is it used a lot nowadays? I don't recall
> ever having heard it when I taught at Royal Holloway College back in 1967-68.
Language changes. One hopes modes of thinking on -user will adapt too.
--
Brian.
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