Re: Links browser, was lynx - not all sites readable
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:43:02PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Hi Dutch,
> I am not sure I agree with the java script focus. after all that site will
> work in lynx, when I turn off the send user agent header option, just like I
> suggested to Hans.
> why would it work in a non graphical environment with lynx, if I take the
> above referenced step if Java script is not involved under those
> circumstances?
> I cannot say as to the graphical ones, I do not have them.
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No, it is likely the user agent string. If I set links' user agent
string to fake firefox, the site will load.
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> On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
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> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 07:57:27PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > Hi Dutch,
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> > > Something told me to try my example again before I shared it, try this in
> > > links.
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> > > www.healingwiththemasters.com
> > > I just tried and got the 403 forbidden error.
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> > Yes, I get the same thing. Note that if you turn off javascript on your
> > full-graphical browser (Firefox, etc), that same site will not
> > error-out, but will likely not display anything, either.
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> > > As for Walmart.com allowing the links browser, I am afraid that matters not
> > > as I am in Canada and my reference is to the Canadian site.
> > > My speech states that the issue is a cookies one, providing the offer of
> > > viewing the flyer without cookies.
> > > I will check your resource for the user agent question.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Karen
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> > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
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> > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 06:55:25PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > > Hi Dutch,
> > > > > The forbidden site issue I encounter is not the one Hans referenced, but
> > > > > others.
> > > > > take
> > > > > masterworkshealing.com
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> > > > I can visit that site with links.
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> > > > > for example,
> > > > > So the idea would be an option that I could change, as I directed Hans to
> > > > > make a short term change to the send user agent header one in lynx.
> > > > > I realize naturally there are times when the user agent header needs to be
> > > > > sent. Likely why Lynx does not make this change perminent. what about in
> > > > > links though?
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> > > > See http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html#subch-network-options
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> > > > > As for storing cookies, indeed, I am wondering what to do if I try
> > > > > visiting a site and am not allowed to continue because the browser will not
> > > > > accept cookies...as in literary says as much.
> > > > > for example,
> > > > > www.walmart.ca
> > > > > will not even move forward in links for this reason.
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> > > > On my machine, that site is not viewable in the standard links config due to
> > > > lack of javascript, not cookies. Interestingly, walmart.com doesn't have that
> > > > issue.
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> > > > > I am not sure if the reference you place below will explain the user agent
> > > > > header question, or the cookies one?
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Karen
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> > > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
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> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 04:47:01PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Dutch,
> > > > > > > Still, that brings up two questions of my own regarding links.
> > > > > > > first, does the browser still not accept cookies?
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> > > > > > I'm not sure of your definition of "accept," but in the general sense links does
> > > > > > not store and set cookies. This post [1] seems to make a distinction, though,
> > > > > > between persistent cookies and volatile cookies.
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> > > > > > > and second, what is the comparative solution to Hans' forbidden site
> > > > > > > problem?
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> > > > > > I had no problem visiting nvidia.de/Treiber with links.
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> > > > > > > I do not know if I can alter the send user agent command in links.
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> > > > > > links -> setup -> Network options -> HTTP options -> Header options
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> > > > > > [1] https://superuser.com/questions/478633/links-cookie-location
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> > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:47:14AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Links is no longer updated,
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> > > > > > > > Where did you get this information? As far as I can see, links was updated on
> > > > > > > > July 1, 2016.[1][2] Does that qualify as "no longer updated"?
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> > > > > > > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_(web_browser)
> > > > > > > > [2] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/links/
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