Re: Starting systemd user services on boot on a Debian server [SOLVED]

[Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>]

On Saturday 17 October 2015 12:29:48 Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 17.10.2015 um 10:20 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> > In <qkuIV-81Y-1@gated-at.bofh.it> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >>  On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> >>> Michael Biebl wrote:
> >>>>  Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> >>>>>  If in doubt, do install this package.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Did you maybe misread that as
> >>>>  "If in doubt, do *not* install this package".
> >>>
> >>> Yes I did. I don't know how many times I've read that sentence, and
> >>> clearly saw a _not_ in there. Interesting.
> >>
> >>  The structure foreshadows a "not".
> >
> > Maybe the presence of the entire sentence indicates that the package
> > really should be installed by default on systems where systemd is
> > installed?
>
> I'm not a native speaker, so I'm happy to rephrase the message to make
> it more obvious. Suggestions?

"If in doubt, install this package."

That "do" makes one expect the "not" that isn't there, and even assume that it 
is meant to be there, if one has noticed that it isn't.  

Lisi

>
> We might also consider bumping the prio of libpam-systemd to standard,
> as Ansgar suggested. That means, it would be installed by default,
> unless you explicitly deselect the standard task in d-i.