Re: Flash update
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 09:45:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 27 June 2015 08:58:44 Brian wrote:
> > On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 02:54:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Friday 26 June 2015 13:34:00 Brian wrote:
> > > > [Beware! Rampant snipping in progress]
> > > >
> > > > On Fri 26 Jun 2015 at 09:38:53 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > > > How do you live stream BBC iPlayer on a computer without the use of
> > > > > Flash?
> > > >
> > > > A well formulated question. :)
> > > >
> > > > Think in these terms:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Using iplayer with flash involves downloading a file.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Wouldn't it be nice if the file could be downloaded, preferably
> > > > using a program which is in a package in the Debian archives?
> > > >
> > > > 3. Such a package has been mentioned in this thread. It is extensively
> > > > documented at the program's home page and in its manual.
> > > >
> > > > 4. The file being downloaded is a .flv. While it is being downloaded it
> > > > is being stored on disk so it can be accessed and viewed. vlc is one
> > > > player which can view .flv files.
> > >
> > > That's not live streaming. So it isn't how to "live stream BBC iPlayer
> > > on a computer without the use of Flash". It is of course, a way of
> > > playing BBC iPlayer. But I am quite happy to use Flash. I'd rather use
> > > Open Source, but I also want both to live stream and to keep my nose.
> >
> > Eh? You'd have to explain. The stream is being displayed by vlc while it
> > is being downloaded. It doesn't get more "live" than that.
>
> Then you have gone beyond my present technical knowledge so I'll have a good
> look at it after I have cracked 4OD. I thought that one had to download
> first.
You appear to be thinking in terms of "downloading" being the completed,
stored product (I downloaded a .deb file) rather than a process.
> It ws you who had failed to explain. Hints and then let the child solve the
> problem for himself are certainly the best way to teach. But only if the
> child knows what to try and do.
The principle was brilliantly explained. How you apply it is up to you.
To illustrate it I would do:
1. Open a terminal and issue the command
wget http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2014/mini-debconf-barcelona/The_Earth_is_not_flat_and_other_heresies_by_Allison_Randal.webm
2. In a second terminal
vlc ~/The_Earth_is_not_flat_and_other_heresies_by_Allison_Randal.webm
> So OK, you win! But the other people I know who use get-iplayer regularly
> have been having problems recently which I understood were the BBC
> deliberately moving the goal post to stop them. Are you not or is that not
> so?
I hadn't realised this was a game of winners and losers. But in fact you
win because you are now in possession of some knowledge you didn't have
before.
I have the same problems others have when things change. Usually I can
relocate the goalposts with a bit of effort.
> Ah! I am very out of date!
> http://linuxcentre.net/getiplayer
>
> But here is where I was at (I had in fact read this earlier):
> http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source
>
> it sounds great and worth an effort. So, thank you. But I'll get 4OD going
> one way or another first.
http://linuxcentre.net/ is no longer the development or distribution
centre for get_iplayer.
I'd suggest abandoning pipelight and going with the Linux version of
flash plus the hal packages would be a route to success.
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