Re: debian 8
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:37:15PM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote:
> > Oh I see. Consider this link then:
> > https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html
> > Especially chapter 2.2.2, which talks about GNOME 3.14.
> > Funny thing is - chapter 2.2.2 does not mention GNOME Classic at all.
> > Presumably because GNOME Classic was axed in GNOME 3.6 (or 3.8, or
> > 3.10
> > - the memory fails me here).
> I see. I found another link, but that only mentions that Gnome in
> Jessie requires 3D drivers, which I would interpret as "no Classic".
Well, they promised that GNOME would rely on so called 'llvm pipe' to
get 3D even if normal 3D is not accessible, but … 'llvm pipe' seems to
be working on amd64 (maybe i386) only, so all other archtectures have
XFCE by default.
>From the personal experience - said 'llvm pipe' just segfaults if amd64
jessie is running in qemu-kvm. Some llvm bug, I presume. Or qemu one.
Not that it really matters to me.
> > > > > > Will Debian 8, when released, provide the "GNOME Classic"
> > > > > > interface?
> > > > >
> > > > > From the above:
> > > > >
> > > > > "If you want to keep an interface closer to the GNOME 2.30
> > > > > version in wheezy, you can select the “GNOME Classic” session
> > > > > at the login prompt. It will bring you an improved version of
> > > > > the traditional panel. You can still edit the panel to add more
> > > > > applets, by using the hidden alt+right click combination. "
> > > >
> > > > Um, wheezy has GNOME 3.4. It's squeeze which had GNOME 2.30.
> > > > Apparently this info is outdated.
> > >
> > > I don't use Gnome, so I wouldn't know :) As the top of the page said
> > > "Debian 8", I didn't inspect the link any closer.
> > Hey, *I* stopped using GNOME back then Debian stable was called etch.
> Maybe this will get more people to switch to something like Xfce or
> just a plain WM :)
No. Never underestimate the power of default installation.
If default installation gives one GNOME - one will stick to the GNOME.
Unless, of course, user knows exactly what is needed. In that case I
fail to see the need of using GNOME in the first place :)
> > But you don't need software to be installed to check its version
> > because they give you apt-cache. And if you don't like apt-cache -
> > they give you aptitude :)
> Not on the machine I'm on right now - it runs Slackware :) I guess
> there's no problem in running apt-cache here, but I can't really see a
> good reason for doing so :) It will be moved to Jessie pretty soon,
> though, just haven't found the time yet.
Unless Slackware stops giving you chroot(1) - you can run both Slackware
and Debian at the same time. The reason to do so (short of building
debs the way it's intended) is escaping from me too.